LeafNosedBat- EA game (upload pretenders)

[Carkaton]

Ya, maybe I overreacted . Anyway I will try to submit Friday after work, after that I will be gone until sunday evening. Probably midnite monday GMT. If we can delay hosting until then I'd much appreciate it.

Edit: to clarify, I should be able to submit turn 27 before I leave. 28 is the one i'll need an extension on.

[Psycho]

This other game I'm playing - Figment (you may want to read the thread, it became very interesting) is hosted on Velusions server which shows whether the player stalled last turn, so everybody has that information. And if anybody stalls for two turns he is turned to AI. I think that is fair.

Carkaton, you exploited the stalling of niefel to take his lands easier than you should probably have. While I don't judge as I would've probably done the same, now that it is discovered that niefel stalled for four turns, I would like to see it turned to AI. As you said yourself, the AI will surely not be a better solution that the player you outsmarted, but is certainly better than nothing. And if you would've taken his lands as easily with him playing his turns, you certainly wouldn't object fighting the AI.

So, Edi, I ask you to turn niefel to AI.

Edit: About delaying the hosting - it's fine by me.

[Carkaton]

Agreed, Niefel should be turned to AI. I should have said something sooner I admit, and expect diplomatic reprecussions. However I will say that at this point, the AI may make it easier for me than no action at all. As I said, his capitol is under siege now. An AI will be more likely to try to break the siege where if no one is playing I will have to storm the castle, which is more difficult. It makes no real difference to me though.

BTW, I didn't mean to make it sound like I outsmarted him, just that our army makeups favored me. While I did set up one trap initially, it just happened that giants have no real killing power against cold resistant undead.

With the bless he had, I don't know if he could have made an effective counter or not. E9 N4-6 would have made his jarls unkillable by the spam and his giants much more difficult, but with no reinvigoration they'd just get wore out.

[Edi]

Sorry I didn't see this before now. I've had a couple of days of rather hectic schedule and not been on the forum much. I'll turn him AI, not that it's going to do any good at this point, since his only remaining province is being besieged by C'tis.

I request that anyone in danger of staling more than 1 turn make sure they notify us in this thread or send me a PM. That way I can delay hosting. What especially annoys me about this particular instance is that if I had known he was staling, I'd have grabbed two or three provinces off my northern border to add to my holdings. I certainly had enough troops for it. And because of that, I lost out big in terms of future potential, resources and strategic flexibility.

EDIT: By just going stale for several turns in a row, he actually screwed up my game much worse than he otherwise would have. From the looks of it, I'm soon going to be in the unenviable position of playing client state to either C'tis or Abysia before getting pasted. Even if he'd fought to he bitter end and I'd have joined in on the looting, I could have done that. But I just respected the NAP we had and got screwed because of that. Thanks a lot to Niefelheim indeed!

[Edi]

Actually, turns out I can't turn a player AI. I'd need to contact Llamabeast and have him do it, but at his point it makes no difference. So let him stale. Just one province left anyway.

[llamabeast]

Just so everyone knows, you can all see a table of who's staled and when, although I admit it's slightly hidden. Go to the LeafNosedBat page (on www.llamaserver.net), click on "Admin options", and then on "Show staling record".

[ComTrav]

I admit, I'm pretty amazed I survived longer than Niefelheim.

Long-term outlook is bleak for me right now. Abysia just seems to be waiting for my ultimate collapse to snap up the rest of my territory, while in the meantime just keeping me around to make sure Lanka doesn't become too big a threat. (And, while I'm at war with Lanka, my threat to him is basically nil.)

I propose a 3-way truce between Tie'n Ch'i, Lanka, and Kailasa to last at least the next 10 turns to give us the opportunity to get our ducks in a row and confront other threats while we still have the chance. The fighting so far has been indecisive, and we could either continue to drag things out while certain other countries continue to surpass us further, or we can negotiate a settlement that, though unpalatable, best preserves our chances of ultimate victory in the game.

[ComTrav]

Stalling last turn was purely accidental, I thought I had on more time.

[Edi]

It seems to host every night around midnight (GMT+2), give or take an hour.

Pipe up if you want the hosting interval increased. I've managed not to stale a single turn yet, but it's been close a couple of times.

In other news, Ulm is in the market for Astral gems in return for forged items or gems of other types. Up to 20 Fire gems would also be welcome in return for forged items or one on one trade of other gem types. Will also trade for an AMA and a Starshine Skullcap.

Any interest? Send counteroffers by PM.

[Psycho]

If people are having trouble getting their turns in, maybe we should switch to 48h intervals. It's way past turn 24 anyway.