MP Noobs & Vets: Rise of the AI Menace. EA, BI. Game Over. Team ACGHHS wins! - Page 74

chrispedersen · #**731** December 6th, 2009, 07:44 PM

Frozen -its a tough position for an admin to be in, taking an action that primarily benefits his team, especially as SS is always wanting to push forward.

But even though y'all are kicking the rest of us .. I still support the roll back ..

AlgaeNymph · #**732** December 6th, 2009, 07:56 PM

I would like to second a rollback as well.

DrPraetorious · #**733** December 6th, 2009, 08:01 PM

How many people staled?

My only issue with a rollback is that they tend to breed bugs, especially with newbie players who don't know to redo their turns from scratch.

Also, I got some *awesome* events which I'm not happy to lose.

Septimius Severus · #**734** December 6th, 2009, 08:05 PM

3 people staled, the rollback has already been completed, only waiting for Agema apparently, everyone else is good. No one else except for Kailasa, Caelum, and Lanka, NEEDS to resubmit turn 20.

Noobs, and anyone else, unless you are one of the three sit tight, and wait for a new turn 21 to be sent to you.

Thanks for your cooperation and patience.

DrPraetorious · #**735** December 6th, 2009, 08:20 PM

Does this mean that Kailasa and Lanka have seen the new turn? I know that Illum has.

If *anyone* has seen their new turn, then *everyone* needs to be given at least 12 hours to make changes to their old turns!

Maerlande · #**736** December 6th, 2009, 08:26 PM

Well, I didn't look at my turn after the stale message. Also, I repeated my orders exactly as I had done them before. I did not submit while waiting for any more discussion amongst our team.

To reiterate, I did nothing different than I had before the stale. I just redid the turn exactly the same.

Maer

Septimius Severus · #**737** December 6th, 2009, 08:33 PM

Correct my friends, whenever there is a rollback there is opportunity for cheating. I am counting on all of you to remain as ethical as your admin. There is no ethical reason to change or redo your turn that I know of.

Edit:

And why would someone have to redo their turn from scratch? Your orders have not changed, the server will still see your turn as turn 20. Every rollback that I have participated in I didn't bother to redo my turns from scratch, I just resubmitted them, including the previous rollback in this game. No adverse effects were noted, my orders were followed.

Illuminated One · #**738** December 6th, 2009, 09:10 PM

Well, I have no other chance than to play the turn with what I know from the last turn. It's been so quiet I know nothing though.

DrPraetorious · #**739** December 6th, 2009, 09:13 PM

Suppose that Illum. had not staled, and that he had attacked one of Kailasa's provinces. We do a rollback, Kailasa has seen the stale turn, Kailasa now knows where Illum is attacking!

This is bad enough, but Illum. at least needs the *chance* to change his target.

So if the people who staled have seen their turns before doing the new turns, everyone should have a chance to redo. Otherwise we have no guarantee that the stalers haven't seen the next turn before making decisions.

Maerlande · #**740** December 6th, 2009, 11:10 PM

How could I possibly know Illuminated's target if he staled? He staled so he obviously didn't attack anyone and I clearly can't tell from the turn I didn't look at. Your example is a bit sketchy DrP. Since Caelum and I both staled and we are aggressively fighting each other seems like a simple roll back of just the stalers is just fine.

That doesn't account for Lanka, but you didn't use that as an example and Lanka is a fair way from your team generally.