Do you like Klingons?

[narf poit chez BOOM]

in my opinion, the start was when they introduced that vulcan mating ritual. first, if the anger really builds up it would make more sense for vulcans to have a punching bag and hit it every once in a while. second, it turns the whole vulcan self-control into a fake.

but i've ranted enough.

[Fyron]

It is not anger that builds up, but just emotions in general. It does not turn anything into a fake. In fact, it makes perfect sense. If you bottle up emotions (any of them), they tend to explode at some point. Some outlet is needed. Sex is a great outlet for many emotions.

[narf poit chez BOOM]

so, by that logic, the best solution is still a continuel release of emotions in areas where they don't interfere with reasoning. at the very least, the whole things jury-rigged.

[Fyron]

Any release of emotion has the potential to interfere with logic and reason.

[Atrocities]

Incidentally, when Gene Rod. did get a script in TOS, it tended to have some really awful elements. For example, the TOS episode where the turning point is when Kirk finds an old flag of the underground movement on the alien planet, and sees that it just happens to coincidentally be exactly like a flag of the USA. Naturally, this also goes hand-in-hand with them having come up with the same words as some of America's Founding Fathers, which he recites. Yep. Total coincidence. USA as universal truth and goodness. Yep.

I have to defend this one. This plot twist was explained in later episodes. There was a race of beings the went around creating duplicate worlds and transplating raced to those worlds for study. However something happened to the race and it was wiped out by another race. Both TOS and TNG, as well as episodes in DS9, mention races that did this.

[ January 03, 2004, 23:02: Message edited by: Atrocities ]

[narf poit chez BOOM]

Any release of emotion has the potential to interfere with logic and reason.

so, a more logical responce to me would be to spend a set hour in the equivalent of a mental breakdown.

I have to defend this one. This plot twist was explained in later episodes. There was a race of beings the went around creating duplicate worlds and transplating raced to those worlds for study. However something happened to the race and it was wiped out by another race. Both TOS and TNG, as well as episodes in DS9, mention races that did this.

plot hole cover. mind you, i'm not saying there not needed sometimes, and in TOS it was all new. i don't think they where sure how to make aliens, not to mention a low effects budget. but, if there's aliens out there, a human may one day discuss the practical applications of pacifism with something that looks like the alien from the Alien movies.

[Atrocities]

Good points Narf.

I am a big advocate for going back and redoing all of TOS's special effects that can be redone.

But one thing is for certain, TOS had some cool things going on that no other show had at that time.

The series was by all mean revolutionary. Even George Lucas has commented on how it had influanced him. (Mirror Mirror)

The tri-corders, communicators, and phasers were all cool revoultionary ideas that for the most part have come to pass in one form or another with the notable exception of the phaser.

(The models of each of these are cool and I am proud to have many of them.)

The ships/sets/costumes were all futuristic looking, and even though the costumes by todays standards are laughable, the did server the purpose back then.

Enterprise is trying to do be TOS crossed with Voyager and that in my honest opinion is a big big huge fricking master mega mistake of gargantuan proportions. LEAVE voyager out of it, that show was so hidiously horrible that it gave Star Trek a bad name.

[Phoenix-D]

[quote]Originally posted by narf poit chez BOOM:

so, a more logical responce to me would be to spend a set hour in the equivalent of a mental breakdown.

Sex is easier to stop afterwards and provides a biological function.

[Fyron]

Voyager was a good series...

[Atrocities]

Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:
Voyager was a good series...

Fyron your my friend so I will not take that comment personally while I try to repres my urge to vomet.

*shakes violently*