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October 18th, 2008, 12:24 PM
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Re: LlamaServer fixed
I think it's for all games. Llamaserver did not update for an hour.
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October 18th, 2008, 12:28 PM
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Re: LlamaServer fixed
I just changed the message to players successfully, so Llama server is running. Someone want to force a hosting? Kickabout is on hold due to calem going AI.
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October 18th, 2008, 12:58 PM
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National Security Advisor
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Re: LlamaServer fixed
What I'd like to add to this discussion is that I hate power cuts, especially when you get 4 in one day. That's not meant to happen in England.
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October 18th, 2008, 09:21 PM
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Re: LlamaServer fixed
Thanks llama....
The weird thing was that I could ping / traceroute to your server. I could go to the admin pages. I just could *not* get the turn submitted.
We all know email is best effort....
But, perhaps I could make one small suggestion to the llamaserver.
Have a Env Variable - Hostable?.
Have a keep alive email send - say every 5 min or so.
If the llamaserver doesn't receive its own keepalive email it disables hosting (postpones all games) until 30 minutes after email reception returns.
This would prevent games from hosting in at least some instances where email couldn't be received.
Alternately, you could do keep alive pinging. Choose 2-3 well known ip addy's such as 4.2.2.2. Test for the return. If you can't receive ICMP returns - delay hosting.
My .02
Chris
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October 18th, 2008, 10:41 PM
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Re: LlamaServer fixed
I've one and only one complaint about Llama server, I tried to donate and the damn thing wants pounds, What the hell, I deal with US dollars. I don't want to do the conversion to whatever you guys use. I bought a gift card to do it and I'm miffed that theres no user friendly conversion to your money.
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Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much.
Oscar Wilde
He who laughs last didn't get the joke.
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Alcohol and calculus don't mix. Never drink and derive.
Socrates used to say, the best form of government was that in which the people obeyed their rulers, and the rulers obeyed the laws.
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October 19th, 2008, 05:56 AM
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Re: LlamaServer fixed
Thanks Bwaha! Apparently each pound is 1.73 dollars.
Chris - the reason you could still ping it is that the web server is a completely different machine to the LlamaServer itself. There's some explanation in the FAQ I think, although it might be outdated.
Anyway, a system similar to what you describe is already in place. The server won't host for as long as it's unable to check its email.
If contact with the mail server goes down, the website is updated intelligently to explain what's happening and hosting times are postponed. Unfortunately if the LlamaServer itself goes down most of the intelligence is lost, so the website just sits there dumbly pretending things are fine (which is what happened yesterday). Happily, power cuts here are pretty rare.
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October 20th, 2008, 04:09 PM
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Re: LlamaServer fixed
Pretty Slick llama
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