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 They are a national spell for kailasa/bandar/patala. Or you can wish for them (but not really worth it IMO). |  
	
		
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				December 17th, 2009, 10:20 AM
			
			
			
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				December 20th, 2009, 05:53 PM
			
			
			
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					Originally Posted by MaxWilson  It's also high encumbrance IIRC and low Prot. Soul Vortex is nice and all, but it's mainly an anti-chaff spell and really, there are other ways to get regen and 0 net encumbrance that don't have such a high opportunity cost. Plus, relying only on Soul Vortex is an invitation to get skelly-spammed to death.
 I guess the question I should be asking is: what commanders/equipment setups do you think would benefit from Bone Armor? I could maybe see it on a Tartarian or a Cyclops because they tend to have Earth magic for Prot, don't need Ethereal, and doubled HP on a Cyclops (let alone a Tartarian) is enough to survive Gifts From the Heavens!
 
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				December 20th, 2009, 07:37 PM
			
			
			
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					Originally Posted by MaxWilson  It's also high encumbrance IIRC and low Prot. Soul Vortex is nice and all, but it's mainly an anti-chaff spell and really, there are other ways to get regen and 0 net encumbrance that don't have such a high opportunity cost. Plus, relying only on Soul Vortex is an invitation to get skelly-spammed to death.
 I guess the question I should be asking is: what commanders/equipment setups do you think would benefit from Bone Armor? I could maybe see it on a Tartarian or a Cyclops because they tend to have Earth magic for Prot, don't need Ethereal, and doubled HP on a Cyclops (let alone a Tartarian) is enough to survive Gifts From the Heavens!
 
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Soul vortex will allow a commander to drain more than his max life, is how it is doubling the hp.
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				December 21st, 2009, 12:41 AM
			
			
			
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 Damn, neat trick Chris
 I've got a game where that will be perfect.
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 Actually , Ice Devils suck. They are the worst of the blood summons, and still cost a lot (88 slaves). they are rarely even worth the trouble. 
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 It's a matter of opinion.  I really like them.  They are only 88 slaves, they can quicken themselves, and they have great stats.  And you only need level 6 in research to summon them.  Now that you're not making clams any more, spend 5W gems on Wolven Winter, targeting the province you're moving into, and put that Cold Power to work. 
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 What is the best build for an Ice devil? I tend to summon them when I get impatient for the Devils/Heliophagii, but I have never been impressed with them. Are they a worthwhile thug/SC for underwater applications? |  
	
		
	
	
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