MP: Morla MA noob game (running)

[SpaceViking21]

Originally Posted by triqui

To SpaceViking21: Let's see how short is the short Straw. I'm not dead yet :P

I meant the diplomatic short straw (as you ended up as the subject of the "hey, let's get this guy and split his stuff" talk), but point taken.

[Immaculate]

Its hard just to ignore the guy with such a massive province lead either.

[SpaceViking21]

Originally Posted by Immaculate

Its hard just to ignore the guy with such a massive province lead either.

This was a pretty big red flag as well. The tallest tree is the one that gets cut first. Of course, whoever ends up winning may have to contend with that problem as well.

[Immaculate]

Phew

[triqui]

I acctually made a mistake in my sentence. I'm already dead. But that only makes me tougher :-)

[triqui]

Somebody should do a report, it'll be nice to hear how things are going arund the world. We know there's war between pythium and machaka, also between tienchi/jotun and ermor. What about he others? It sounds as if Man and Marignon have their border disputes too, dont they?

Later we should try to tell what strategies went wrong and which ones worked, both us and our oponents ones. Thus we could debate a bit, and learn stuff, so we can take off the "noob" label :-P

[Olm]

Originally Posted by triqui

Somebody should do a report, it'll be nice to hear how things are going arund the world. We know there's war between pythium and machaka, also between tienchi/jotun and ermor. What about he others? It sounds as if Man and Marignon have their border disputes too, dont they?

Later we should try to tell what strategies went wrong and which ones worked, both us and our oponents ones. Thus we could debate a bit, and learn stuff, so we can take off the "noob" label :-P

I really like your communication in this thread.
I am sorry that my time is very limited atm between my job, building a house, three small children and three games of dom3.
So I will not be communicating that much. Nonetheless I am happy about any diplomatic connection.

Yes, Marignon and me we have some problems. I have to be honest and say it all originated from me.
When I met Marignon he had the fewest provinces, the smallest army and the smallest income. Some rather weak indy provinces right beside his home were not taken, so I thought him an easy target and instantly attacked.
Learned very soon his knights of the chalice are really great, he wiped out one of my armies. He then was too bold and learned that my Knights of Avalon are not bad either, when he lost a good part of his army. Since then our knights have been more or less circling each other without another major fight.
Marignon is much tougher than I thought, and whats puzzeling me: I would have thought our war would drag on other parts of his realm, but the contrary is true. Marignon has improved in all statistics since the start of the war. He is now even the largest of the smaller nations. Don't know how he manages and don't know why he had so slow a start with those great knights. But in the end I am sure he will collapse to my forces. I just bring to much to the fight. Finally my bards and not my knights will decide this war.

Btw: Could anyone comment on the battle between Tien Chi and Machaka? Must have been epic. Really sorry I missed it.

[triqui]

Tien Chi is facing Ermor. Yes, the battle was epic, and despise good mages and priests siding with Tien Chi, the final outcome was, I think, vastly favorable to Ermor. Apostacy is such a great national spell for Ermor that I can not praise it enough, it insta kill enemy sacreds. And that include priestly mages. Solar Rays did quite a lot of damage to Ermor sacred Vestals, though, so it wasn't a free victory.

Right now in that side of the world war, Ermor has recuperated bassically all their initial territory, but 2 provinces (one of them with a castle). Ermor is recruiting more than he is losing, and seems holding well, although still at numeric disventage when you add up both Tien Chi and Jotun troops. The SC chasis of Jotun Good is quite impressive, and it won't be really easy to face them, but at the very least, Ermor has survived the initial "shock and awe" phase of surprise war, so probably would be a long war.

On your question about Marignon: I bet, like LA Ulm and other Resource Heavy nations, that Knights of Chalice aren't easy to build up. Probably he can recruit 1, maybe 2 in the first few turns. 1 soldier, no matter how good (with maybe the exception of Niefelheim sacreds), can't take province on their own. So Marignon probably was struggling to beat the indies around their capitol slowly. Once he cleared his capitol and got full resources, there's no doubt W9 Knights of the Chalice are a force to reckon. Lots of armies fold to them like there's no hope. Tien Ch'i was wise to surrender 3 provinces to them: armies of composite bows barely scratch them before they annhilate the entire army. Probably Marignon did accept the deal from Tien Ch'i becouse of you. Facing 2 opponents is not fun, and he sealed one of the fronts before facing you with his entire army. Without you in the equation, there is no reason for Marignon to seal a pact with Tien Ch'i for 3 provinces, becouse he could just take those 3 provinces, and everyone after that, before Tien Ch'i could get a proper counter from magic. With you facing him too, his diplomatic movement makes much more sense. You are a big country (biggest right now), so he need to focus all his attention on you, and the best way to do so is with a solid friend in his other side.

PS: Assasinating a giant sized fully armored Jotun Herse with lowly cheap skeletons is sooo dirty and fun

[SpaceViking21]

Originally Posted by triqui

PS: Assasinating a giant sized fully armored Jotun Herse with lowly cheap skeletons is sooo dirty and fun

You managed to get the only guy on that stack whose entire script was holdx5 stay behind troops. Kinda wish you could script them differently for battle and for assassination attempts. Oh well.

[triqui]

Originally Posted by SpaceViking21

You managed to get the only guy on that stack whose entire script was holdx5 stay behind troops. Kinda wish you could script them differently for battle and for assassination attempts. Oh well.

Not really a difference, imho. An assasin with the skull ammulet can kill any other commander in the world, provided that that other commander don't have 2 attacks. It's absolutelly impossible that a Jotun Hirdemen kill more than 1 skellie per turn, and the assassin build 1 skellie per turn. Sooner or later the Jotun will miss an attack, even if only of pure bad luck, and then it will be dead. He can kill 1 skellie, but has 2 on him and one extra getting there every turn.

There are ways to avoid this, sure (which i'll gladly share in a couple of turns if nobody does before ), but I doubt scripting any different set up of orders will change the result.