Most difficult nation

The Black Captain · #1 February 16th, 2004, 04:58 PM

Is there a consensus as to which nation is the most difficult to play and succeed in conquering the world(s)?

Peter Ebbesen · #2 February 16th, 2004, 04:59 PM

Depends on world.

Arryn · #3 February 16th, 2004, 05:02 PM

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Originally posted by Peter Ebbesen:
Depends on world.

And on the victory conditions. And on the world settings. And on what AIs are used, or the skill of the human players.

In short, the question is too broad/vague.

Teraswaerto · #4 February 16th, 2004, 05:08 PM

Carrion Woods Pangaea probably.

General Tacticus · #5 February 16th, 2004, 05:11 PM

Starting position can make a lot of difference. If you mean conquer the World in the World Map scenario, for example, then Mictlan has a very good starting position, while Ulm's is really awful. In fact, I spent weeks trying to find a way to survive it against impossible AI's, before finally finding a strategy that made it possible... whereas my Mictlan attempt succeeded on the first try. And yet I consider Ulm far easier to play than Mictlan.

I would say that nations with no access to good heavy infantry are harder to play (Mictlan and Pangea come to mind), but that may be my play style...

Gandalf Parker · #6 February 16th, 2004, 05:22 PM

The best one is the one that most matches your playing style. The worst one is the one which most does NOT match your playing style.

Seriously. Ulm and Arcos are often listed as easy to win with but personally I do badly with Ulm because I play too defensively and cautiously. And I do bad with Arcos because I neglect to pay enough attention to magic research. But thats one of the great things about this game.

NTJedi · #7 February 16th, 2004, 06:13 PM

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Originally posted by General Tacticus:

I would say that nations with no access to good heavy infantry are harder to play (Mictlan and Pangea come to mind), but that may be my play style...

I would have to agree with General Tacticus.

fahdiz · #8 February 16th, 2004, 06:15 PM

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Originally posted by Gandalf Parker:
The best one is the one that most matches your playing style. The worst one is the one which most does NOT match your playing style.

Seriously. Ulm and Arcos are often listed as easy to win with but personally I do badly with Ulm because I play too defensively and cautiously. And I do bad with Arcos because I neglect to pay enough attention to magic research. But thats one of the great things about this game.

What nation most closely matches your playing style, Gandalf?

LordArioch · #9 February 16th, 2004, 06:30 PM

I think I've heard Gandalf talk about the stealthiness of Pangea and Man enough to bet they match his playing style.

Personally I see why Pythium is a wonderful nation in theory, but I can never quite use it right. I can use Arco however. Carrion woods pangea is probably infamous as being the trickiest for most people to use. I don't have it figured out at all.

Gandalf Parker · #10 February 16th, 2004, 07:54 PM

Actually Im not sure which one matches my style most. Probably Jotun because it allows for strong defensive play and is forgiving to forgetfulness.

Its my hacker tendencys that control my choices. I have a strong dislike for menus, defaults, and obvious choices. For me its no fun to try and win with the obvious choice so whatever seems to be the underdog will get my most attention.
I think I have the most fun with Pangaea though.