Anyone who think they can win against this army?

[DLC]

the only army that could would probably be a ulm smith with mechanical dragons or mechanical men i'd reckon or other storm demons(dont mention any of those please as i already know).
Please say a army/summons with a nationbased(dont mention unique items either) or summonable non unique commander(as you can't rely on unique ones on a huge map cause they are too few cept maybe fire/water demons)


Vanadrott(non-empowered with one random in air)

5 air 1 blood.(2 air gems)
equipped with staff of storms, jade armor, ring of fire, winged helmet, ring of lightning.

has 5 storm demons infront of the vanadrott in the back corner as a entourage.

set to cast storm power, wrathful skies, aim, aim, aim.

tell me how you beat it, just tried several of them vs ermor against up to 700 sized armies.

size doesn't seem to matter vs this strategy.(althought assassins waste gems trying to assassinate them(my gems) and nightmare kills them sometimes).

[ March 16, 2004, 21:09: Message edited by: DLC ]

[Norfleet]

I'm not quite sure what you're asking of us. This army is far from unbeatable, and if you don't set any constraints on the puzzle, like how much material can be deemed to be a reasonable amount to commit, then the problem becomes a trivial exercise in excessive force. Exactly what level of resources is reasonable to assume?

[Taqwus]

Rings of lightning immunity are remarkably cheap and simple to build, and blood vengeance is far from invulnerability given the availability of MR items and commanders with decent base MRs. Elemental armor ain't rare either. Mistform gets dispelled by magical weapon hits.

[DLC]

no troops that are lightning resistant(storm demons, mechanical men, mechanical dragon, othernesses etc).

preferably no wind mage first nation i'd seek to eradicate is man, caelum and r'lyeh.

remove one wind from him btw, i removed the bag of winds.

any army is fine as long as it isn't exaggerated like 10x25 gem nature summoned dragons(forgot the name of them blah).

1 commmander only limit also

blah removed the bloodslave and the bloodvengeance and mistwarriors.

[ March 16, 2004, 21:09: Message edited by: DLC ]

[Norfleet]

So you want me to kill you with an army that consists of a single commander....how about I just drop my pretender on you? That doesn't technically cost me any gems.

[DLC]

ok i'm done now hehe, nor more editings.

drop whatever you got one my army now

dominion scales are neutral.

[DLC]

Originally posted by Norfleet:
So you want me to kill you with an army that consists of a single commander....how about I just drop my pretender on you? That doesn't technically cost me any gems.

only one commander, no unit limit tho

[DLC]

your pretender is unique btw so he doesn't count

can't count on him to fight for you on a huge map either, if i was on a huge map i'd refit my commander with a flying armor instead of that jade one.

[Norfleet]

Originally posted by DLC:
can't count on him to fight for you on a huge map either, if i was on a huge map i'd refit my commander with a flying armor instead of that jade one.

Heh. As a World Map player, I play on huge maps all the time, and I *DO* count on my pretender for fighting: In fact, my pretender is the only thing I can reliably get to mobilize in force on a moment's notice, since I'm usually camping out in a lab (airbase), waiting to airdrop into hot spots.

I think that a decently equipped Tartarian should be able to accomplish the job just fine, though.

[Taqwus]

*shrug* Again, lightning immunity is cheap to put onto any commander with a spare misc slot.
A Bane Lord with a Ring of Tamed Lightning and an amulet of magic resistance would probably do it for cheap -- takes only 1 air, 1 astral, a couple death. Comes with a magical weapon so mistform is meaningless, will laugh off the wrathful skies, has good enough MR to ignore the phantasmal weapons and to bypass blood vengeance, and doesn't get tired.