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				Vanishing Commanders
	
			 
             
			
		
		
		
		One of my MP games is in year 5 now. 
 
I had 2 Naiads in a province casting Voice of Tiamat. Some turns ago the first naiad suddenly vanished without any message. 
 
In the messages i got a "Philia cast Voice of Tiamat". Instead of a picture of the commander there was just nothing at the start of the message.  
No more information. The commander was just disappeared. 
 
The second Naiad cast 1 more turn and moved than for 2 turns. In the actual turn the commander is vanished too. No information nothing, just no naiad where it should be. 
 
I'm not sure what happens. I've a big nation with several hundreds commanders and thousands of troops. I'm not sure the 2 naiads were the only commanders but on the first look they were. 
 
Did anybody notice something equal? Maybe its up to conjured commanders, maybe up to naiads but anyway its weird. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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		Najads .. moved .. vanished .. the AI does that as well :/ 
 
Hint: Read their description again ... 
 
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		Thanks, I should really read it right    
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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		Or just have a look at their HP, I don't know if the problem here was that you let it reach zero over time. Honestly, I couldn't make out what you were trying to say. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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		There are spells which can snatch commanders also. Im not sure how they look on the other side. Wind Ride for example. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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Najads and their eastern counterpart, the Nushi, "slowly wither and die" (lose 1+ HP each turn) if they leave their home province. It's in the spell and unit description    
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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		The Naid explanation seems to make sense, but others of us in the same game as Calmon have had odd things happen with commanders during turn generation.  For example, one of my Sages (who were all doing pure research, I never mess with them) took off from my capital and ended up in one of my other fortresses. 
 
Another player claims to have had 5 Sages simply disappear (we're only in turn 5, shouldn't have died from old age effects) and yet another claims to have had a Naja disappear while building a lab. 
 
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For example, one of my Sages (who were all doing pure research, I never mess with them) took off from my capital and ended up in one of my other fortresses. 
			
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 Perhaps he was working on an early prototype of teleportation spell?    
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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