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April 17th, 2007, 07:39 PM
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Computer Controlled Ship Mutiny???
Hi folks,
Can anyone tell me how a computer controlled ship can mutiny? No crew, no mutiny, right?
Sure could use some help here folks.
Thanks in advance.
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April 17th, 2007, 09:30 PM
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Re: Computer Controlled Ship Mutiny???
Any movie mathematician will tell you chaos theory leads to AIs running amok
Just be glad you didn't have them networked into some sort of "sky"net...
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April 17th, 2007, 11:59 PM
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Re: Computer Controlled Ship Mutiny???
Yeah, don't install the HAL 9000 series next time.
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April 18th, 2007, 12:25 PM
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Re: Computer Controlled Ship Mutiny???
Oh, you guys are HILARIOUS! <grin>
Actually, I found a Master Computer called the M5 from Daystrom Institute Systems. Only used once, then shut itself down...
What a deal!
Seriously, do either of you, especially you SJ, think this could be related to the savegame bug I encountered where my mines could not be detonated by one AI race of ships?
Thanks in advance.
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April 18th, 2007, 02:49 PM
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Re: Computer Controlled Ship Mutiny???
I think the game just doesn't care about master computers for mutinies. As for explaining them, I can't think of a better explanation for the random event version than the previously suggested HAL 9000, but intelligence operations are quite easily explained as the work of hackers and/or computer viruses.
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April 18th, 2007, 10:16 PM
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Re: Computer Controlled Ship Mutiny???
Imagine you were really going to do something stupid like make a heavily-armed starfaring warship controlled by a computer, and assumed it would always remain loyal to your side. You'd certainly want to make as sure you could that it would not be susceptible to being sent impostor command messages. After all, if someone figured out how to tell it to do things, they'd be in control of it (effectively, a mutiny). So you'd need to program it to sometimes be suspicious, and decide some such signals were hostile takeover attempts... which could lead to false calculations of what was a hostile takeover rather than a valid command... which if it happened, could effectively be like a mutiny... etc, etc...
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April 20th, 2007, 04:43 PM
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Re: Computer Controlled Ship Mutiny???
Some other sly race could have switched the chips and taken it over with an intellegence project. It matters not if there is a crew onboard.
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April 20th, 2007, 09:09 PM
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Re: Computer Controlled Ship Mutiny???
Yes, or one of your own race with access could have decided to get rich by giving access to some alien who would pay them or do something they needed done, etc.
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May 7th, 2007, 05:23 PM
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Re: Computer Controlled Ship Mutiny???
If we are talking true AI here, as in Artificial Intelligence, what makes you think it would be any more resistant to treason than a biological intelligence?
Granted, some of the usual leverage factors would not apply (kinky sex, for example).
Drugs, on the other hand, are a possibility. Nobody says a drug has to be chemical in form. Here's an example...
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