Flame Weapons

[triqui]

Couple of questions:

1) how does it work? It says 6 AP damage. Does it means it adds 6 damage to, say, the 5 damage of a shortsword, for a total of 11 dmg? If so, does it means the whole dmg is AP? Or does it inflict 6AP dmg as a separated source of damage. If so, does it means it does not work at all on units with Prot 12+?

3) Are claws (and other non-weapon attacks) "melee weapons" for the purpose of Flaming weapons?

[Endoperez]

1) The 6AP damage is separate. However, as all damage and all rolls random variation happens on both sides of the roll. Against 12 (effective 6) prot, the flame has 46% chance of dealing at least 1 point of damage, and against 18 prot (effective 9), 24% chance of the same. See page 5 of your manual for further numbers.

3) Yes, anything including the hoof attack of the unit's mount is a melee weapon.

[Yrkoon]

Flaming weapons conflict somewhat with magic weapons that have AoE like coldbrand, Ember and so on. I can't remember which effect takes priority - the item's or the bless'. Of course, it only occurs for blessed units wielding magic weapons.

[Cor2]

Are you sure about the hoofs Endo?

I read somewhere on this forum that secondary weapons are not flaming and it was specifically stated no flaming hoofs.

[BesucherXia]

IMO, the 6AP fire damage can be just regarded as an "additional weapon".
At first your normal weapon will make a DRN throw against target's protection(+DRN from the other side), after which you will make 2nd DRN throw, with 6 AP against enemy's pro (only half is counted)+DRN.

Both damage will be summed to get the final damage.

Yet I am not sure if a F9 kinght of the chalice can benefit twice from flaming weapon in 1 turn(hoof+sword).

[Torin]

to test give the commander 2 shields.
If the victim catchs fire. Then it works with hoof.

[Endoperez]

Cor2 said:
Are you sure about the hoofs Endo?

I read somewhere on this forum that secondary weapons are not flaming and it was specifically stated no flaming hoofs.

Well, that's what I've always thought... I'm not sure how much I can trust what I've always thought, though.
P.S. I think I've used all too many al's, th's and 'oughts in this post, although only once in the same word.

[Cor2]

Torin said:
to test give the commander 2 shields.
If the victim catchs fire. Then it works with hoof.

I am not sure this would work. If "secondary weapon" is defined as "attacks that come after the first attack without qucikness" then the test would not work. If there is a tag where all kicks are secondary then this would work well...

[parcelt]

does fire resistance negate the flaming weapons effect?

[Cor2]

it does.