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January 25th, 2012, 04:49 PM
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"An army equipped with vintage M-48 tanks ......"
While digging around for info I came across this quote on the net....
"An army equipped with vintage M-48 tanks would have devastated the Iraqis......."
So I thought ..OK, lets test that theory but for obvious reason I do not have the time.
Attached as a modified Tutorial scenario with the Abrams replaced by M48's. Let me know how that works out.
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January 25th, 2012, 07:27 PM
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Re: "An army equipped with vintage M-48 tanks ......"
---- USA --- Iraq
Men....1......212
Art......0.........0
SV......0.........2
APC....0........2
AFV....1.......46
Score
USA = 9218
Iraq = 285
M-48
3 x SO-152
1 x BRDM-2
4 x T-55
1 x T-72
Most of the Infantry
M-48 hit rate vs vehicles while stationary or slow moving was about 15% till they got within 150m of targets (3 of their 4 T-55s were killed the last turn of the game)
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January 25th, 2012, 07:30 PM
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Re: "An army equipped with vintage M-48 tanks ......"
Against the AI it's a massacre. American firepower and 40 vis units still rule the battlefield.
Most Iraqi units were killed in their forming up point by Air and Arty.
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January 25th, 2012, 08:30 PM
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Re: "An army equipped with vintage M-48 tanks ......"
I'd more say the TOW/Hellfire rule.
While the vision DOES help the range, accuracy, and sheer number of ATGM launchers make it a classic turkey shoot.
The one M-48 I lost was to an RPG while they were mowing down infantry.
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January 25th, 2012, 08:32 PM
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Re: "An army equipped with vintage M-48 tanks ......"
Well, I did give them the DU ammo version...
Yeah I figured given everything else in that tutorial it might not make all that much difference. You could probably win without the tanks at all
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January 25th, 2012, 08:38 PM
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Re: "An army equipped with vintage M-48 tanks ......"
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Against the AI it's a massacre.
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I love it..... Iraq zero. I cannot even say that's the score to beat! The Swedish Scythe strikes again.
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January 25th, 2012, 09:20 PM
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Re: "An army equipped with vintage M-48 tanks ......"
OK, I see some need a bigger challenge.
Try this for fun.
M48's and no air support.
Have a nice day........
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January 25th, 2012, 11:53 PM
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Re: "An army equipped with vintage M-48 tanks ......"
If all you did was delete the A-10s see my earlier battle results.
Nor did I use the 155's.
I haven't played the tutorial for years and held back the 155's and A-10's waiting for an off-board Soviet WW II style artillery division to open fire or an on-board mortar regiment or five.
By the time I realized neither was going to happen I was too close to the objective (and end of the scenario) to use either.
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January 26th, 2012, 12:29 AM
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Re: "An army equipped with vintage M-48 tanks ......"
......it's not the tutorial. "Feint Attack" is a completely different scenario
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January 26th, 2012, 01:06 AM
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Re: "An army equipped with vintage M-48 tanks ......"
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......it's not the tutorial. "Feint Attack" is a completely different scenario
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Ahhhh !
*downloads*
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