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Swiss Blue
Not a new cheese, an OOB!.
Blue OOB is used as a basis for this Swiss OOB since this produces batlocs more in line with Switzerland.
Most non-transport formations have the experience and morale boosted, since the blue OOB EXP/MOR is for a conscript army. Line Swiss tend to be in the high 60s experience now.
Tanks:
from 20 to 30 Renault FT were bought post WW1.
6 Vickers M1934 were bought about 1935.
24 Skodas were bought just before WW2, with no armament. the oerlikon 24mm was installed locally.
the various prototype tanks produced late in the war are available in the prototype tank section.
Tank companies were just 8 tanks. Battalion is 24, for the tanks that were in sufficient numbers (probably one Bn each of Skodas and Renaults). Vickers probably only should be bought in sections of 2.
Armoured cars
A few Skoda turtles appear to have been acquired pre-war
the Melli M1943 also appeared in small numbers.
The Skoda had 4 MGs one in each corner, I have given it 2 as that is about all that could bear on one target at the same time..
There were probably less than 30 armoured cars in the country, so a couple of sections of 2 is probably all you could get.
ATG:
The boeler 47mm was in service from the mid 30s.
The 24mm was introduced in the early war years. Light, but not very impressive. The same gun as in the Skoda light tanks.
A better 47mm came into service in 1941, but that's it for Swiss anti-armour guns!.
The 75mm AA gun is also available as a heavy ATG.
AAA
some decent Oerlikon 20mm, a triple later on.
the 34mm AAG let to the post-war 35mm
Planes:
Some French and German models, a few bought from Italy. (The DH5 spotter is not the same as the WW1 British DH5).
Infantry A/T
An anti-tank rifle grenade seems to have been issued. I have put it in service in 1941.
The 20mm AT rifle was the mainstay of swiss infantry-AT through the war though.
NB - The AI pick list has been modified to reduce tank count by swapping some formations about, and also by covering blue's tank formations that were not required with AI rifle companies to boost the infantry buy in the AI hands. This OOB can be used as the German or Italian opponent in Operation Tannenbaum in a small campaign game if desired.
This army is a WW1-type infantry army, with poor anti-tank capability and very few tanks of low utility. Artillery is adequate but not outstanding. Dig in in the mountains and make your enemy winkle you out would be about the only tactic for this one. Swiss militia system meant the army was almost a half a million riflemen, with perhaps half that again in territorial reserve forces.
As with all alternate OOBs
1) make a sub-folder to unzip this OOB into under the default OOBS folder
2) use the OOB swapper ("Manage OOB Sets" button on the Game Options launcher, as described in the Game Guide) to move it in or replace back with the default OOB 42 as required.
The OOB is supplied as-is, there will be no further maintenance by us.
Feel free to use it as a starter if you feel like developing it further yourself.
Cheers
Andy
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July 11th, 2013, 04:51 PM
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Re: Swiss Blue
Is it possible to change the flag to the Swiss flag and also change the name to Switzerland?
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July 11th, 2013, 11:34 PM
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Re: Swiss Blue
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Is it possible to change the flag to the Swiss flag and also change the name to Switzerland?
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No you cannot change the name of any OOB (its built into the code. as with the batlocs). The flag would need SHP editing.
Leader names - see the leaders text files (rank and names).
If you want help with that then look through the mods sub-forum, and maybe post there for help from other folk who have done that sort of major surgery.
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July 12th, 2013, 12:16 PM
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Re: Swiss Blue
Thanks Andy
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September 27th, 2013, 09:29 PM
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Re: Swiss Blue
Just want to put this out there. I have an original copy (printed in 1939) of the Taschenbuch der Heere - 1939 (something like: "Handbook/Pocketbook of Armies") written by Kurt Passow.
It includes information (albeit only information that was known at the time) about the armies of every country in the world. There are quite a few pages about Switzerland for instance. It's not exhaustive, but does present information about military equipment (small arms, artillery, support weapons, AAA, etc.) general demographics, and brief OOB's for some standard units.
So, I guess I just wanted to share that incase anyone is interested in me looking up something specific. It's important to note that it only includes information that was publicly known in 1939 (so no secret weapons). It doesn't list any type of vehicles either.
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February 15th, 2014, 05:54 AM
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Re: Swiss Blue
I extended and modified the Blue OOB as the Swiss.
Tanks:
The first Vickers arrived '33 and were in Service until after the war.
The Pz39 was (sometimes?)also equiped with a LMG for AA purpose.
ONE Strv m/38 (Swedish) was in Switzerland for a Trial (lol).
Armoured cars:
Couldn't find any reference for the Skoda PA-2 (espacially not armed).
I think the Meili 1943 was purely a pretend tank with no working gun.
Neverless I added them as improvised APCs with no weapons
ATG:
The 4.7cm guns were the main Inf AT guns before and during WW2
But a lot of the 7.5cm and alao old 8.4 cannons were used for AT purpose as well as for artillery.
Some 10.5cm Guns were just installed in fortresses before the war (the first ones ready around October 1939). Used in direct defense and artillery.
AAA
nothing new here I think
Planes:
nothing new here I think (some models were named differently or were not exact the same, but for game purpose no need to change)
Infantry A/T
Added some explosives packages like the ones in other oobs, like Brandflasche and packed handgranates (Grossmutter lol)
The 24mm was also in use like the 20mm AT-rifle.
Added a few more Units.
in fact there were more than 650'000 soldiers porely armed with a good and very accurate rifle, but thats was it mainly (Karabiner 1931 - still used this days for precise shootng on Shooting ranges and contests!).... and only 24 Pz39... Cavalary also played still a important role in the Swiss army during that time period and was only slowely replaced until the '70s....
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As with all alternate OOBs
1) make a sub-folder to unzip this OOB into under the default OOBS folder
2) use the OOB swapper ("Manage OOB Sets" button on the Game Options launcher, as described in the Game Guide) to move it in or replace back with the default OOB 42 as required.
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March 10th, 2014, 11:06 AM
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