Japanese OOB05 v.2014

[Pibwl]

A couple of thoughts while working upon Japanese pictures, for eventual future use:

071 Ki-43 Hayabusa - 250kg bombs were introduced in Ki-43-II produced from 11/42 (now 1/42) (though according to Polish monographic article by L.Wieliczko, 250kg bombs were used rather for suicide missions). Earlier Ki-43-I could take up to 2x30kg.

100 A6M7 Rei-Sen - photo is early A6M2

108 Carden-Lloyd - precisely it was Carden-Loyd Mk.VIb (single "L" btw), but according to Taki it was designated Type Ka (Ka shiki) - http://www3.plala.or.jp/takihome/carden.html
Bought already in 1930 according to Taki (or even in 1928 according to A. Tomczyk "Japanese armor vol.1") (now 1/33). Date change would demand changes in formations 111,112.

115 Kawasaki Ki.57 - it would need own photo - now it's Ki-21 bomber

133 Type 5 To-Ku - it was a prototype only.

147 Wolesley A/C - correct is Wolseley http://www3.plala.or.jp/takihome/wolseley.htm

It would be nice to have also Vickers-Crossley armoured car http://www3.plala.or.jp/takihome/VC.html

There could be also added Austin armoured car http://www3.plala.or.jp/takihome/austin.html . I don't know until when they were used, but it could be simply copied from Polish unit 651 (with eventual change of MGs), so maybe it's worth to add it until 1931.

148 M3 Stuart - photo is M3A3. It's worth to replace it with a Japanese tank photo, eg. cut from http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4.../japbook27.jpg

157 75mm Mtn Gun - used from 1935 http://www3.plala.or.jp/takihome/94-75.htm

200 Renault Type 79 - they were named model Ko tanks (Ko Gata Sensha). According to A. Tomczyk "Japanese armor", the Japanese never used "Type" designations for imported vehicles. See also http://www3.plala.or.jp/takihome/FT.html

201,202 Renault Type 87, Type 89 - as above - they were named Otsu Gata http://www3.plala.or.jp/takihome/NC.html
There isn't known armament of 2x MGs - they should be armed with 1 MG or 37 mm gun of unknown characteristics, but apparently longer, than French SA-18 (eg. http://www.aviarmor.net/tww2/photo/f.../nc27_jap4.jpg ).

214,400 Type 94 (Early) - there's no information about it having a BMG

224 A6M8c Rei-Sen - photo is early A6M2

270,271 Yokosuka B4Y1 - photo is Aichi D1A http://www.combinedfleet.com/HainanRS_t.htm

273-275 Nakajima Ki-49 - photo is Mitsubishi Ki-21

279,280 Nakajima B6N - photo is Ki-32

282,284 Mitsubishi Ki67, Yokosuka P1Y1 - photo is Mitsubishi Ki-21

370 Yokosuka D4Y - photo is Aichi D3A

410 Type 3 Ke-Ri - according to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_95_Ha-Go and other publications, "this design never got past testing in 1943" or made only in few pieces.

Regards
Michal

[PvtJoker]

Originally Posted by Pibwl

201,202 Renault Type 87, Type 89 - as above - they were named Otsu Gata http://www3.plala.or.jp/takihome/NC.html
There isn't known armament of 2x MGs - they should be armed with 1 MG or 37 mm gun of unknown characteristics, but apparently longer, than French SA-18 (eg. http://www.aviarmor.net/tww2/photo/f.../nc27_jap4.jpg ).

The 37mm gun on the Renault NC was the Sogekiho, which apparently had no type designation:

http://www3.plala.or.jp/takihome/Sogekiho.html

An L28 gun with a decent muzzle velocity, so AP Penetration 4 would be a good guess for game performance.

[DRG]

http://www.weaponsofwwii.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3130

During the mid-1920th Renault tested several new types of suspensions for the FT17/18 tank. IJA was very interested in these developoments and even supported Renault by buying 10 vehicles (5 armed with MG, 5 armed with a gun) tanks from the pre-series production of the NC1 Modellé 1927 and allowing Renault engineers to lead the trials at Kurume in late 1929/early 1930. The results were rather unsatisfying as the suspension made several problems during duration tests.

Nevertheless IJA used a provisional tank unit during the early 1932 Manchurian Incident when chinese warlord troops entered the japanese controlled area around Harbin/Manchuria from northern China but retreated after recognising the tanks. During these operations several NC1tanks, which were now armed with "Sogekiho" 37 mm infantry guns, broke down due to suspension failures. Renault immediately modified several suspension parts after tests with this new configuration in France 1931 were successful. In Europe these vehicles are known as "Renault NC1Modellé 1931" or "NC31". IJA designated both versions "Otsu Gata" = "second (tank) model". During the 1932 Shanghai Incident IJA used some of the modified vehicles. But the suspension still had many problems reducing the operational time. So IJA finally decided to retire the NC1 tanks in late 1932.

another source suggests they were kept around until mid 1940 ..the end date has been adjusted.

[Pibwl]

One more thing:

014 Type 5 Chi-Ri has a photo of Type 4 Chi-To

Michal

[DRG]

Well Michael that's because 10 years ago there were no Chi-frigging-Ri photos to put in. Maybe I'll have better luck now


Oh good... I found one.........

[MarkSheppard]

Request the Type 99 88mm AA Gun, if it's not too late.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_99_88_mm_AA_Gun

Approximately 100~ were built, but they were held back in the home islands; and would have been encountered in an Invasion.

[DRG]

Request you read the very first sticky on this sub forum

[MarkSheppard]

The Japanese developed a AP round for the Type 99; it was according to the 3rd Guards Division's adjustment material "Chart of Material Efficiency of Current Anti-tank Weapons" (「現有対戦車兵器資材効力概見表」) to penetrate 120mm of armor at 500m, which is close/similar to the early 88mm Flak rounds that the Germans used.

BTW; if you google that phrase (「現有対戦車兵器資材効力概見表」) , you turn up some interesting japanese language pages.

[DRG]

QUOTE

" The Type 99 88 mm AA gun was primarily deployed in defense of the Japanese home islands against Allied air raids "

so they may have had an AP round but that's as far as it goes

[Pibwl]

I've restrained myself from bothering you lately, but since the update isn't ready yet... Anyway, I don't expect these notes to be applied, just in case... Don't shoot, just ignore

022 Type 92 SNLF - winter and desert icon differ from standard

23 Chiyoda A/C - it has armament of Type 91 So-Mo, that was in this place before. Chiyoda should have three LMGs (BMG and two turret ones, one with limited possibility of AA fire), though I assume, that both turret MGs could not fire at the same time.
http://ikazuchisen.wordpress.com/chiyoda-armored-car/

BTW: maybe it's worth to return Type 91 So-Mo armoured car as well - just copy from older OOBs?..

115 Kawasaki Ki.57 - should be Mitsubishi Ki-57 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitsubishi_Ki-57

147 Wolesley A/C - correct name is Wolseley http://www3.plala.or.jp/takihome/wolseley.htm

178 Type 97A Te-Ke - photo is gun-armed, better seems 763

215 Type 97 Shi-Ki - it also had rear turret MG

299 Crossley A/C - armament was two Vickers 7.7mm, crew 5, speed 70 km/h according to http://www3.plala.or.jp/takihome/VC.html

406,422 Type 97B Te-Ke - photo looks like MG armed instead of gun-armed, should be 4019 or 3736

487 Entrenched Tp95 - much better photo seems 09138

That's all.