Vacuum breathers get gypped in FQM?

[Andrés]

The results are be in % of total facility slots.

I calculated the proportion of every planet/size/type combination based on sector types, and in the system and quadrant files.

Here's the file if you want to check for mistakes, it took me a while to copy data from the FQM systems file and there could be some mistake there.

No there are not, there is 1 more small-methane-rock planet and 1 less small-methane-ice planet the stock sectortypes file.

[Ed Kolis]

Interesting... so vacuum breathers don't get gypped, it's really the ice people... wonder if that could be fixed just by adding duplicate entries to SectType.txt...

edit: funny, whenever I play as a rock race all the good planets seem to be ice

[ February 07, 2003, 14:55: Message edited by: Ed Kolis ]

[Fyron]

Your results make no sense.

SectTypes.txt is exactly the same in FQM Standard as in the unmodded game, so that can not account for any difference.

The only systems that I called for rock or ice planets specifically are the Standard 1-6 AS and Ancient 1-6 AS, and those systems do not appear in Mid-Life quadrants.

Actually, the Standard 12 AS I and II have an Ice planet called as the 12th "planet", so there should be a few more Ice planets, not less.

[Andrés]

Ed no-breathers do suffer: in stock they have a slight advantage over breathers, while in FQM a slight disadvantage. Though I feraded a much larger difference, there are still a lot of moons (or other planets I didn't check their position) forced to be tiny none, and there are also some forced to be small-none and medium-none that do not exist in the stock game.

About ice dwellers, the difference with the standard Version is minimal, ice people don't get any more gypped in FQM than in the stock game.

I'm trying to determine the reason of this difference.

You're free to examine the spreadsheet I posted to check for mistakes either in the data I copied as source or in my logic. Or to generate a quadrant and count planets to check if their proportion is close to the one I calculated

I'm counting those ice planets, but both of them only appear in systems repeated 3 times each so those 6 planets are insignificant when weighted against the total of 9,316 planets.
For example the number of planets forced to be huge gas giants is far more significant.
Even if you'd add one of those ice planets in every system it wouldn't be enough to make them even with rock and gas.
To even ice planets you'd need something more drastic, like changing 1/4 of the total number of any-any-any planets to any-any-ice.

I couldn't find anything conclusive yet, but my guess is that the larger number of planets, the slight advantage in gas, and the greater proportion of tiny and small planets accentuate the difference between ice and rock.

Even the little difference in small-methane gets stressed due to the larger proportion of small-any planets.

[Fyron]

I think you are too concerned with the old system types that are hardly even used (if at all) in later Versions of FQM. Standard 1-6 AS can safely be ignored, because they are not used.

The systems used most (Standard 1-12 AS I or II) don't have ice planets specified.

[LGM]

Keep in mind that there are more important concerns than number of facility slots. None races do not get population bonuses as readily, but they do potentially have more shipyard capacity in a game where you cannot only colonize None worlds. In a wide open colonization game, an 8% facility versus a 6% facility ratio of Green pluss worlds means nothing when you figure out how easy it is to get a 10% Population bonus on green plus world. In this area, the other breathers have advantage in getting Huge and Large worlds. None breathers do not benit much from computers either.

[Andrés]

Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:
I think you are too concerned with the old system types that are hardly even used (if at all) in later Versions of FQM. Standard 1-6 AS can safely be ignored, because they are not used.

The systems used most (Standard 1-12 AS I or II) don't have ice planets specified.

Didn't you see the XLS?
Planets called in every system type are multiplied by the number of times that system appears in the quadrant, that gives every system the relative importance is has.