oooo aaron! - looks like moo3 is flopping... ;) do se5 faster?

oleg · #1 February 27th, 2003, 07:14 PM

I really enjoyed Moo2. I liked the sound and animation of colony ship landing, I liked rotating new devices my science guy present. I liked the general view of my beautiful colonies, I liked every bit of space combat !
Now, AFAIK, it is all gone.

I may buy Moo3 3-4 months from now, for �5.

Fyron · #2 February 27th, 2003, 07:24 PM

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Originally posted by Cirvol:
unfortunately, yes... se4 is a niche

there was never a store release
(which, today is better than even a year ago)

but still bad imho - aaron / malf. needs to call up eb and see if they can get some copies put onto shelves with 'new release' stickers and maybe a follow up review on game review sites that have just finished doing moo3 reviews

(hrm, should i be running malf? - they should call me for consulting work or sumsuch)

Probably not. Going retail brings very little to no profit to the game developer. This is why MM never took SE to retail. MM would most likely end up losing money if that happened.

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Originally posted by dogscoff:

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I'm not buying, I'm happy with the Proportioned SE4.

I agree completely. Someone bought me MOO2 a few years ago. Never even installed it.

You missed out on a lot then. MOO2 is essentially a better game than SE4. The only downside to it is that it lacks the moddability of SE4. This is the only reason why SE4 is currently a better game than MOO2.

Well, that, and you can't do as many varied stellar manipulations as in SE4, but that is a minor point. It is kind of like the difference between nVidia and ATI video cards. The ATI card is a better designed card, but the nVidia has far superior drivers, which make it outperform in the end. If only MOO2 was merged with SE4, then we would have one heck of a game.

[ February 27, 2003, 17:29: Message edited by: Imperator Fyron ]

Aloofi · #3 February 27th, 2003, 07:38 PM

I haven't played any of the MOO games, so I can't compare SE4 to them, but compared the games I have played, SE4 beat the hell out of them in everything but diplomacy.

Fyron · #4 February 27th, 2003, 07:40 PM

You can get MOO2 for rather cheap nowadays. I only payed about $10 for it a few years back. I suggest you try it out. You won't regret it.

spoon · #5 February 27th, 2003, 08:05 PM

MOO series = good single player
SE4 = good multiplayer

I probably won't play MOO3 multiplayer, and, lord help me, I won't play SE4 single player.

Fyron · #6 February 27th, 2003, 08:15 PM

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Originally posted by spoon:
MOO series = good single player
SE4 = good multiplayer

I probably won't play MOO3 multiplayer, and, lord help me, I won't play SE4 single player.

It is good to see that I am not alone.

Well... except that there is no "lord help me" part for me.

[ February 27, 2003, 18:16: Message edited by: Imperator Fyron ]

Baron Munchausen · #7 February 27th, 2003, 08:24 PM

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Originally posted by Cirvol:
http://www.ina-community.com/forums/...hreadid=267505

thats a thread about many new moo3 owners that are dissatisfied - you all might want to point them to se4gold

anyway, i'd like to know what you all think?

Unfortunately, the mis-adventures of the MOO series might hurt all 4X games rather than help its rivals. Most people are hypnotized by eye-candy 'real time' 3D games these days, you know. Hearing that MOO 3 was 'a flop' might convince them that 4X games aren't any good and they should stick with the click-fest eye-candy type games. Then Galactic Civilization and other pending 4X games will get much less chance to prove themselves.

I'm sure MM will be reading reviews and listening to opinons about MOO 3 to learn what they did wrong, though.

[ February 27, 2003, 18:26: Message edited by: Baron Munchausen ]