OT - What was your first TBS/War game?

[TerranC]

Originally posted by narf poit chez BOOM:
P, it was underdogs itself which posted a notice saying abandonware is illegal.

Abandonware is not illegal; circulating old titles and using the term abandonware as an excuse to circulate such old titles even when companies that own such unabandoned-wares still sell them is illegal.

A game is classified as an abandonware when the game becomes abandoned, hence the term, for various reasons, and it becomes no-one's property.

When it becomes nobody's property, it should free to distribute, and it does become free to distribute, as if you were handing out pieces of garbage.

As such, The-Underdogs only post download links to games that are out of stock; It does not offer free downloads of, let's say, Simcity 2000 since it is still sold by Maxis, and is still owned by Electronic arts.

So it is illogical to call true abandonware illegal.

Furthermore, I'd like to see where you got your statement from Narf; I consider myself a The-underdogs regular, and I have never seen such a statement made by the website.

Edit: And on topic: The first war game I fell in love with was, and still is, SE4.

[ January 26, 2004, 22:52: Message edited by: TerranC ]

[narf poit chez BOOM]

i can't remember, it was years ago.

so, again, what would constitute abandonware and how would that void the copyright?

[TerranC]

Originally posted by narf poit chez BOOM:
what would constitute abandonware and how would that void the copyright?

- Discontinued Games - for various reasons, but mostly because of failed sales expectations

- Disowned Games - also for various reasons, but mostly because of Company takeovers, bankrupcy, etc.

- Games which their Copyrights have expired and were not renewed by their companies of ownership

- Games released into the public (this one's in a grey area)

- Games without copyright whatsoever

And so on, and so on, IMHO.

[narf poit chez BOOM]

well, this page was certainly interesting: http://www.the-underdogs.org/scratch.php

but it's no longer my turn on the computer.

thanks.

[narf poit chez BOOM]

what about that 'failure to enforce any portion of this agreement does not constitute a waiver of any portion of this agreement' etc. part of eula's?

[Fyron]

Like most of the EULA, it is rubbish and not really enforceable.

[narf poit chez BOOM]

does that mean it's illegal, though? that part of the eula?

[ January 27, 2004, 05:26: Message edited by: narf poit chez BOOM ]