Iron Dragons=Uber Unit ??

[apoger]

Elf bane would probably work... but unless the character holding it is BEEFY you don't want to lose a magic weapon if the dragon tramples over him/her first.

[Endoperez]

Can one repel a Trample attack? If yes, what is it's length?
Maybe spears, or pikes, (length 3-5) though I could see it being only length 0 too...

Oops, forgot the main idea: If the "length of trample" ( ) is zero, then you would have one chance to repel with elf bane. Well, it would be something...

[ December 24, 2003, 19:05: Message edited by: Endoperez ]

[ywl]

Originally posted by Endoperez:
Can one repel a Trample attack? If yes, what is it's length?
Maybe spears, or pikes, (length 3-5) though I could see it being only length 0 too...

Oops, forgot the main idea: If the "length of trample" ( ) is zero, then you would have one chance to repel with elf bane. Well, it would be something...

I think it checks against your "defense" value. So, lightly armored units have the advantage (make sense, right? . So do ethereal units though I don't know what's the bonus is. Worse for the trampler is: even if he has some very good melee weapon, he'll still trample by default even facing high-defense units. That's why I mentioned ghost, which has a decent defense and ethereal.

Trampling damage is armor negating and related to the trampler's size - somebody else could probably give you a precise formula.

Iron Dragons are powerful, especially since they're so mobile. But it's not the end of the world.

[Arralen]

Originally posted by apoger:
>.. the ID isn't lighting-resistant, right?

It's 100% resistant to all elements and poison.

Sending in troops versus ID's is just a good way to lose troops. Magic that requires a MR check is their real weakness.

.. so switch Thunder Bow for Ethereal Crossbow plus Boots of Quickness ...

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[apoger]

>.. so switch Thunder Bow for Ethereal Crossbow plus Boots of Quickness ...

Might as well cast soul slay which will happen twice as often and always "hits".

I like ethereal cbows, but as a way to augment an already prepared army. I wouldn't suggest them as a main defense versus ID's. I understand the allure of stacking up items on characters as an attempt to replace mages. In practice I have found that it doesn't work very well.

[Chris Byler]

Originally posted by apoger:
>.. so switch Thunder Bow for Ethereal Crossbow plus Boots of Quickness ...

Might as well cast soul slay which will happen twice as often and always "hits".

I like ethereal cbows, but as a way to augment an already prepared army. I wouldn't suggest them as a main defense versus ID's. I understand the allure of stacking up items on characters as an attempt to replace mages. In practice I have found that it doesn't work very well.

One astral mage can forge several ethereal crossbows, or die once to Magic Duel. Not everyone is a strong astral nation.

Vision's Foe is good too - armor negating, automatic eye loss on each hit. Two hits and he's blind.

Besides, there's no reason you can't put the ethereal crossbow on a mage. I suggest a Tuatha (prec 17 IIRC) with his random in water, scripted for Quickness, Eagle Eyes, Aim, fire large monsters. (Maybe add a defensive spell or two - but Tuatha already have high defense and glamour, so he'll probably be OK without.) Or if that's too expensive for you, Sidhe Champions have about 14-15 base PREC, and can also cast Eagle Eyes and Aim (and forge themselves Eyes of Aiming if that still isn't enough).

[Nagot Gick Fel]

Originally posted by Chris Byler:
scripted for Quickness, Eagle Eyes, Aim, fire large monsters.

Not 100% sure, but I believe Eagle Eyes and Aim don't stack.