Another possible combat bug in v1.35 (weapon platforms)

[HreDaak]

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Originally posted by Baron Munchausen:
So, does anything else 'stack' about to hit modifiers now? Maybe stealth/scattering armor stacks with your ECM now? Has anyone checked? It seems odd that this bug would just "pop up" without a reason. he must hav been trying to change something.

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I have not checked if this so called stacking bug/feature is only in v1.35. I did not notice it in earlier Versions since i had not bothered to test tactical combat until now (AI_Strategies.txt file wasnt working correctly until v1.35, 20. Fixed - AI was not reading the AI_Strategies.txt file if it was in that race's directory.)
So i started tweaking this file and watching the AI battle against each other when i noticed that smaller fighter Groups had serious problems to hit larger fighter Groups.. so i naturally started investigate this and one thing led to another. And yes i have nothing else productive to do than mod and play Space Empires IV .

On ECM, stealth armor and scattering armor.. yes they do stack now with each other. When you design new ships just click the To Hit Modifier on the right side of the screen (new in v1.35) and you see the current defense and offense modifiers.

[capnq]

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I would have expected them to just give +X% offensive modifier to that weapon/mount and not limit the minimum to hit chance to (X+1)%.

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I think I see where the confusion is coming from. If I understand things correctly, any weapon that has a target within its range has a minimum 1% chance to hit. The +X% offensive modifier is added after checking the range, so the to-hit chance becomes (1+X)%

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In any case i hope that i've not been offensive in any way...

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No problem; you haven't offended anyone, I just didn't understand what you were saying.

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[DirectorTsaarx]

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Originally posted by Baron Munchausen:
So, does anything else 'stack' about to hit modifiers now? Maybe stealth/scattering armor stacks with your ECM now? Has anyone checked? It seems odd that this bug would just "pop up" without a reason. he must hav been trying to change something.

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I think ship & fleet experience is supposed to stack now as well; in fact, I believe the experience problem (i.e., ship & fleet experience _didn't_ stack prior to 1.35) is what Aaron was trying to fix in one of the patches.

[jc173]

Stealth and scattering armor will stack with ECM now. Actually pretty much anything will stack for combat to hit offense and defense plus bonuses. I have a component in mod for a cybernetic interface and AI computer as one component that provides combat movement and offensive and defensive bonuses. My idea was to use that for certain races instead of sensors and ECM, but I tested it and it will stack with sensors and ECM. You can rack up some pretty high bonuses if you different components.

[Suicide Junkie]

With all this new stacking allowed, has anybody checked to see if ECM III stacks with ECM II and ECM I ???

[HreDaak]

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Originally posted by suicide_junkie:
With all this new stacking allowed, has anybody checked to see if ECM III stacks with ECM II and ECM I ???

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They do not stack with each other...
I suppose it's component family related, ie components in same family do not stack with each other.

[Nitram Draw]

I think it related to the vehicle file modifiers and units being stracked in the same space.
There are only a few types of units that can be in the same space, fighters, WP, mines and sats I think. It would be interesting to see what would happen if you gave offense plus and defense plus to a sat in the vehicle file. Would you have similiar weirdness happening?