What polarity can we reverse today?

GruelThePurple · #1 May 22nd, 2001, 07:38 PM

I'm thinking... Wesley Crusher.

Oh... You said favorite villian... How about just a villian, or vile entity? There is nothing favorite about him.

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dmm · #2 May 22nd, 2001, 08:13 PM

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Originally posted by raynor:
Who is your favorite arch-villain from the four ST series

Ceska (sp?) from STV was pretty good. Such a slimey traitor. Unmatched deceitfulness.

The power politics of the two Klingon sisters from STTNG & STDS9 was pretty good, too.

Q didn't make a good villain for me. He wasn't really mean or even unfeeling. Wouldn't have been such a bad guy at all if he weren't so powerful.

IMHO, the best short-term (one episode and a movie) villain was Khan, and the best long-term villain was Gul Dukat. Each of them had admirable qualities, but their lust for power and revenge drove them to extreme evil.

Deathstalker · #3 May 22nd, 2001, 08:17 PM

My vote is on Gul Dukat, esp in junction with Kai Wynn (sp?), made a good evil duo.

And on another note, for all the grumblers about Captain Janeway (not so many here, but lots elsewhere) just remember who else was in the running for the position, Lesley Wagner, (the Bionic Woman), personally I like the current Captain.

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Owen smiled coldly. "It wasn't hers to take. I'm a Deathstalker until I die. And we never forget a slight or an enemy." -Owen Deathstalker.

dmm · #4 May 22nd, 2001, 08:32 PM

I liked the basic premise behind Wesley Crusher (boy supergenius), but he was SO poorly written. No angst, no frustration, no anger, no failures, nobody who didn't like him (nobody on the show, I mean). But then, a LOT of the early STTNG characters (ALL of them?) were poorly written. For instance, Worf's character was horrible at first, and Tasha's lines were so bad that she was unrecoverable so they had to kill her off.

capnq · #5 May 23rd, 2001, 04:36 PM

Actually, Tasha was killed off because Denise Crosby wanted out, because she wasn't getting much to do besides look good. She was a lot happier coming back as Commander Sela.

I was just starting to get fed up with Wesley when the Traveler declared him the Mozart of warp engineering; for some reason I found him easier to cope with after that. But I stopped following the series relatively early in its run, because I moved to a place where I couldn't get the station it was on, and can't afford cable.

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human mind to correlate all of its contents. We live on a placid
island of ignorance in the midst of black seas of infinity, and it was
not meant that we should go far. -- HP Lovecraft

DirectorTsaarx · #6 May 23rd, 2001, 06:10 PM

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Originally posted by Puke:

would have to be that danm singing hologram Vic Fontaine, or perhaps that dingle Rick Borman who gave him so much air time and is ARSING UP all things trek-ish.

Hey - I LIKED Vic... yeah, the episodes were just filler-fluff, but think of them as palate-cleansers. You know, to get you ready for the next "serious story" episode.

zen. · #7 May 23rd, 2001, 08:01 PM

The obvious fave: da Borg!

Although I think they were much more menacing when introduced and throughout TNG... Voyager has reduced them to simple plot devices.

Although the sheer alienness of Species 8472 was also quite cool.

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