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		I thought it was the death of the unit, but it would seem that you get one "smite" for each instance the priest is damaged. So, if he/she is hit twice, you get two bolts even if the priest is still alive. At least that's what I've concluded from casually watching battles, i.e.  without doing extensive in-depth testing. 
I already thought of giving Coral queens cold resistance (not immunity) items and regeneration rings, and trying it out with BoW. A bit costly and risky, but could be fun. Sort of like holy berserk in a way - the holy protector gets angry at the sight of priest's blood, regardless of how it was drawn.      
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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		I have tested this Holy avenger / BoF combo with some odd results. 
 
I played as Pythium, with the idea of recruting lots of theug comminicants and use them with 2 masters with appropriate random paths.  
 
- one with a random path in nature and the battle orders: cast "communion master", "personal regeneration", "holy avenger", hold, hold, stay behind troops 
(he is placed at the far back in a pack with all the communicants, who is set to hold, hold, hold, etc) 
 
- one with a random path in water (so he would have WW) and the battle orders: hold, hold, "breath of winter", hold, hold 
(placed in the same pack as the others - the first two holds are there to delay the BoF) 
 
In front of this holy mob i placed a screen of fodder. 
 
The reults: Precisely one(!) unaccounted smite pr. round not more, not less, even though the communicants clearly took damage (not from fattigue, so it must be from the BoF).  
 
I would consider it kinda buggy if this scheme had produced the 10-15 smites pr round I was hoping fore, but exactly one smite pr. round is a little strange. It should be none or all. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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		Are you sure they all got Holy avenger as part of the communion? Maybe you were just getting the smite from damaging the master (the one who actually cast it)? I guess I should be testing it myself instead of giving advice, but if you place the master with holy avenger away from the pack and get no smites whatsoever, that would mean that the avenger is not shared through communion. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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		I tried moving the "holy avenger" guy out. And still only one smite. 
 
I also tried removing the "personal regeneration" still only one. 
 
I then figured that perhaps the "holy avenger" isn't transfered to the communicants, and i then tried with alot of level 4 priest. Still only one. 
 
In all instances everyone in the pack with the BoF guy took some damage. 
 
I think that getting one at all is a bug, but apparently a bug that can happen only once pr. combat round. But still it would've looked cool if it had worked. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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		Can Holy Avenger affect more than once per turn, at all? I haven't really been testing it or anything, and it is quite rare to have holy-4 mages get damaged... 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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		Sorry, double post... 
  
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		I too thought the spell was triggered by the protected one DYING, not just getting hurt. 
 
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