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Fyron · #1 August 18th, 2004, 07:36 PM

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Captain Kwok said:
It's not a problem for me. Most OT threads belong in a general Category anyways - and on 99% of forums they are.

The problem with that is that by the very nature of these forums, each Category tends to be an entirely separate community... Often, people only wish to discuss an issue with members of a particular community, not everyone that browses Shrapnel Intel Forums. Most people just set a particular Category as their bookmark, and skip the rest of the forums entirely. This is why the Shrapnel General Category is very rarely used...

Captain Kwok · #2 August 18th, 2004, 07:49 PM

That's likely true Fyron...

I'm just saying that there is nothing wrong with them wanting to move true OT threads to a general forum. I'd do the same if I had a set of forums. I think Shrapnel was just lax about it in the past, and if they want to keep on top of it more now then that's their perogitive.

If those topics interested you, just drop by the general forum from time to time.

primitive · #3 August 18th, 2004, 09:18 PM

Seems like nobody gets my point here (maybe I need to work a bit on my communication skills

).

If Shrapnel wants an off-topic free forum, thats their prerogative. It will be boring, and maybe a bit suicidal as many of the regular contributors (like me) won't bother to check in very often. But it's their choice.

A censored forum however, is different. Even if posting something political on a game forum is not a big issue, it has become an integral part of the freedoms I value.

So, Please.
Could any Shrapnel personel or one of the Moderators answer this simple question: Is the moving of the election thread a glitch, or is this a policy decission ?

And if its a glitch, please move it back.

geoschmo · #4 August 18th, 2004, 09:41 PM

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primitive said:
So, Please.
Could any Shrapnel personel or one of the Moderators answer this simple question: Is the moving of the election thread a glitch, or is this a policy decission ?

And if its a glitch, please move it back.

It's neither a glitch or a firm policy decision. There's not a science to it. We don't have a codified policy stating this kind of thread is ok, and that kind of thread is not. As all of you know there has been much discussion back and forth on the topic. No general agreement has been reached, even among the Moderators. So basically we are just handling things on a thread by thread basis. The same thread might not get moved at another time, even by the same moderator.

Fyron · #5 August 18th, 2004, 09:44 PM

That is a rather poor way to run a forum... leads people to suspect favoritism and other such nasty things.

Kamog · #6 August 18th, 2004, 09:49 PM

Well, I prefer that the OT threads stay in the SEIV area because I rarely read the General forum.

Captain Kwok · #7 August 18th, 2004, 09:56 PM

I don't think Shrapnel wants an OT-free forum or is attempting to implement any sort of censure - I think OTs in re: to space, aliens, or along other general themes of the game are completely fine for this forum.

Perhaps OT threads like those to do with politics, computer items not connected to se4 etc, would be the kind of topics better suited to the general forum.

But of course, we've become so used to this forum being our one-stop shop - can we ever change?

Makinus · #8 August 19th, 2004, 02:47 PM

you mean that there is other forums in shrapnel beyond the SE4 forum?

wow! what a concept!

Gandalf Parker · #9 August 18th, 2004, 10:09 PM

Why is this coming up again?
And why is it that everytime someone tries to turn it into a "no OT's allowed" when that was never said? As if it has to be an "all or none" decision.

The shrapnel general forums were created for a purpose. Any forum where there are too many OT threads or threads which seem to shift the mood of the forum off of its purpose, the Moderators have the capability to delete the thread (rarely ever happened), delete some Posts (still very few in any of the forums), lock it, or move it to the general subject area. SEIV has had very little ever done in this area and what was done was the least of these.

BTW comments that "I rarely ever visit the other forums" or the shrapnel front page doesnt really help your case any.

Fyron · #10 August 18th, 2004, 10:56 PM

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Why is this coming up again?

Because the first ever OT thread was forcibly moved out of this forum Category.

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The shrapnel general forums were created for a purpose.

And they were never used for that purpose, and Shrapnel has _always_ been of the position that OT threads don't need to be moved anywhere.

There are not many OT threads in this forum right now, so the suggestion that the thread was moved due to too many OT threads is not applicable.

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BTW comments that "I rarely ever visit the other forums" or the shrapnel front page doesnt really help your case any.

That is a perfectly valid case. There is no reason to visit the rest of the forums if you only play one game published by Shrapnel.