OT: What is true victory

AMF · #1 August 30th, 2004, 02:24 PM

I think that was the point, no?

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Cyclop said:
The phrase "get over itself" always seems to confuse me. As if no one else or nothing else seems to matter but "itself". Which IMO is an ignorant statement.

rdouglass · #2 August 30th, 2004, 05:04 PM

If we wake up tomorrow morning we have a victory over death. (...for at least another day anyways...) Its all in your perspective...

Colonel · #3 August 30th, 2004, 08:48 PM

The question in my little thing was, Can there ever be true victory?

Randallw · #4 August 31st, 2004, 02:30 AM

Do you mean true victory over the current enemy, terrorists?. Otherwise as I tried to convey destroying your enemy so that they no longer exist is a true victory as they will no longer ever be a threat again.

Ragnarok · #5 August 31st, 2004, 10:52 AM

True victory will never come about. Why? Because even if you get rid of the problem, or your enemy, the idea of what they believed is still there. There will come someone in short order that will believe as they did and wish to carry out what they strived to accomplish. It is a never ending cycle. The only way to bring about true victory in that respect is to get rid of the idea that your problem/enemy held completely, but we know that is not possible with the power of mankind.

Karibu · #6 August 31st, 2004, 11:02 AM

Actually, George Orwell found a solution to this problem of "idea never vanish". Just read 1984. Those who have read it, know what it takes. Not very pleasant world it would be.

Colonel · #7 August 31st, 2004, 05:16 PM

I mean can there ever be true victory over all life not just your enemies, not just your goals, i mean all life, to understand all, to know all, to be omnipotent. To clarify, Is there any way to be Omnipotent in this life without useing technology.