how do damage multipliers work?

Arryn · #1 September 26th, 2004, 04:33 AM

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I'm doing it for purely selfish reasons.

I'm in a couple of MP games in which having a reliable way of killing ice devils would be very useful...

And I'm asking because I have a tendency to mass-produce BLs (they are, IMO, the most cost-efficient means to wipe out enemies). Oops, did I just admit that?

Thanks again.

Yossar · #2 September 26th, 2004, 04:57 AM

How about a firbolg vs Ice Devil matchup? Firbolg has similar stats to a Bane Lord (1 more attack and defense, 3 less strength), but 16 less hps (42 vs 26). But on the other hand, he's not vulnerable to triple herald lance damage.

deccan · #3 September 26th, 2004, 06:08 AM

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How about a firbolg vs Ice Devil matchup? Firbolg has similar stats to a Bane Lord (1 more attack and defense, 3 less strength), but 16 less hps (42 vs 26). But on the other hand, he's not vulnerable to triple herald lance damage.

Yeah, but the firbolg has terrible encumberance. Without a drain life weapon to restore his fatigue, and with a drain life weapon hitting him, he just won't Last very long. It seems like a choice only when you don't have access to death.

Huzurdaddi · #4 September 26th, 2004, 01:55 PM

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Yeah, but the firbolg has terrible encumberance. Without a drain life weapon to restore his fatigue, and with a drain life weapon hitting him, he just won't Last very long. It seems like a choice only when you don't have access to death.

Got to agree with that. And the HP is going to be quite a large issue.

Yossar · #5 September 27th, 2004, 03:38 AM

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How about a firbolg vs Ice Devil matchup? Firbolg has similar stats to a Bane Lord (1 more attack and defense, 3 less strength), but 16 less hps (42 vs 26). But on the other hand, he's not vulnerable to triple herald lance damage.

Yeah, but the firbolg has terrible encumberance. Without a drain life weapon to restore his fatigue, and with a drain life weapon hitting him, he just won't Last very long. It seems like a choice only when you don't have access to death.

Aren't we just talking about a 1 on 1 matchup? Of course the encumbrance will matter, but will it be enough to stop him when he can kill the Ice Devil in one or two hits?

deccan · #6 September 27th, 2004, 06:13 AM

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Yossar said:
How about a firbolg vs Ice Devil matchup? Firbolg has similar stats to a Bane Lord (1 more attack and defense, 3 less strength), but 16 less hps (42 vs 26). But on the other hand, he's not vulnerable to triple herald lance damage.

Yeah, but the firbolg has terrible encumberance. Without a drain life weapon to restore his fatigue, and with a drain life weapon hitting him, he just won't Last very long. It seems like a choice only when you don't have access to death.

Aren't we just talking about a 1 on 1 matchup? Of course the encumbrance will matter, but will it be enough to stop him when he can kill the Ice Devil in one or two hits?

Okay, okay, I'll add this to my to-do list and get back to you.

I should add however that a bane lord at least can be set to try to target the ice devil specifically in a big battle and have a reasonable chance of surviving afterwards, whereas the encumberance and lower hit points of the firbolg makes it seem like a one-use weapon. Of course, one might well have no better use of nature gems, so this could be an option.

Yossar · #7 September 27th, 2004, 06:51 AM

No, that's ok, you don't really have to do the test. I have a pretty good idea how it would turn out. You could always stick a ring of resilience on the firbolg. Still gonna have problems with the 7 encumbrance from jade armor, though. Maybe go with rainbow armor and just settle for a single attack. Or rainbow and boots of quickness and forego flying.