Conceptual Balance Series (Mod)

Zen · #1 October 26th, 2004, 01:40 AM

Oh yeah, forgot to remove that part. Yes. The Father of Serpents doesn't have a Poison Cloud anymore. It was found to be more of a hamper than a benefit (which I had hoped). I'm afraid I will have to feel that the Father of Serpents and the Lord of the Desert Sun are slightly expensive for their benefit but unable to change them to my 'thematic' desire.

Suggestions that are moddable at the current time would be accepted for those two. Suggestions should not include: Get more paths or Change the Path/cost but something to do with the "SC"ish role that they seem to be apart of. Also I can't mod in +summons for rituals or Summon Allies, otherwise I might have added a bonus to Summer Lions or all animals or something with them.

Wauthan · #2 October 26th, 2004, 04:49 AM

I gave the Father of Serpents the breathweapon of the Green Dragon. It's not much since, as for the dragons, spells quickly become more powerful as artillery support. But it gets him started a bit quicker as an SC.

I don't think I ever used Lord of the Desert sun. He's the lionheaded feller right? I guess one could remove his Bite attack and give him Consume Soul instead. He's a demigod predator after all. Or perhaps give him stealth and assassin abilities like Mictlans Batman? Would be lionish enough and would be a powerboost. Perhaps lowering his stats a bit since an autosummoning assassin is like a kick in the teeth (curse you Batman!).

Huzurdaddi · #3 October 26th, 2004, 10:33 PM

For the Lord of the Desert Sun you could just bump his Awe rating up to +4 or so. Should make him a *fine* early SC.

Oh wrt. the spell mod I was wondering why no change ( ie: nerf ) to mistform. It's considered to many to be the best early defensive spell in the game and it powers many of the early SCs. Bumping it up a few levels would put it out of reach of early SC's while keeping it for the people that want to protect their casters. Sadly this would eliminate yet another option from the early game. You could bump the path requirement by quite a bit making it only for Air SC's. Or you could do nothing!

Graeme Dice · #4 October 26th, 2004, 11:51 PM

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Huzurdaddi said:
It's considered to many to be the best early defensive spell in the game and it powers many of the early SCs.

Mistform isn't that spectacular. 25 damage will end it, or even less than that on low hitpoint units.

Body ethereal and personal luck are both quite a bit better than mistform.

Huzurdaddi · #5 October 26th, 2004, 11:55 PM

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Body ethereal and personal luck are both quite a bit better than mistform.

LOL!

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archaeolept · #6 October 27th, 2004, 12:04 AM

well, together I'd say they're better.

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For the Lord of the Desert Sun you could just bump his Awe rating up to +4 or so. Should make him a *fine* early SC.

trouble is, the lord of the desert sun also suffers from the "moloch" syndrome; without, to my eyes, the Moloch's compensatory qualities.

Huzurdaddi · #7 October 27th, 2004, 01:13 AM

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trouble is, the lord of the desert sun also suffers from the "moloch" syndrome; without, to my eyes, the Moloch's compensatory qualities.

Whoops I was thinking of the Son of the Sun. Yes the Lord of the Desert Sun is lacking I totally agree. So how do the allies work? Do he simply cast : Pride of Lions before the combat? Or is he hard coded to get some set number of a set monster number? In either case I would guess that the solution would be to bump the power ( substantially ) of his summons. If this also requires you to rework the cost ( and/or level ) for the spell which summons the troops then so be it. I guess. You may even have to rework the text ( since maybe now it summons something of the power of Kithaironic Lions ... if that's what you are looking for ).