EEEvil Empire has arrived...and brought friends :)

Deathstalker · #1 September 13th, 2001, 03:12 PM

Thanks, will have to tweak their designcreations txt and research txt's....sensors are developed a little early IIRC, maybe shoving a sensor in the 'must have' line, might work.....

ah well, at least the Cephalopeia is doing better!

Alpha Kodiak · #2 September 13th, 2001, 03:35 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Rollo:

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Vaxin who refuse my peace offerings (they are brotherly, but still want war)
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I would really like to make the Vaxin more amenable to peace offerings, but I have yet to figure out how to do it. If anyone has any advice on this I would appreciate it.

Rollo · #3 September 14th, 2001, 01:11 AM

turn 90 standings:

me 5th: 120 tech / 55 planets / 721 units / 43 ships / 0 bases
Vikings 3rd: 198/71/1623/62/6
EEEvil 8th: 162/13/1432/5/0
Orks 2nd: 183/47/1825/94/12
Aquilaeian 4th: 179/35/735/33/3
Vaxin 1st: 192/95/273/42/10
Minbari 7th: 198/72/21/12/0
Cephalopeia 6th: 198/46/1160/47/1

sorry, too lazy to post more details

Rollo

Alpha Kodiak · #4 September 15th, 2001, 06:06 AM

Well, I am finally going to get a test game going. It is using the latest TDM mod.

The conditions are as follows:

Large Spiral Arm quadrant, all warp points connected, all player planets same size. All events turned off.

Tech costs are low. All techs available except applied intelligence.

Starting resources medium, one good home planet. Low tech, low racial points available.

No random AI's or neutrals. Computer difficulty high, computer bonus low.

Victory is Last empire standing.

The participants are as follows:

1. Azorani Alliance (me)
2. Angelican Regency (AI I am refining - shipset by John Beech)
3. Space Vikings
4. Sergetti Empire (TDM AI)
5. EEEvil Empire
6. Rage Collective (AI being tweaked slightly)
7. Xi'Chung (TDM AI)
8. Vaxin League (AI being tweaked slightly)
9. Aquilaeian Empire (TDM AI)
10. Pyrochette Empire (TDM AI)
11. Star Empire of Romii (AI being tweaked slightly - shipset by John Beech)
12. Toron Confederation (TDM AI)

I will post updates as the game progresses.

Q · #5 September 15th, 2001, 08:23 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Alpha Kodiak:
I would really like to make the Vaxin more amenable to peace offerings, but I have yet to figure out how to do it. If anyone has any advice on this I would appreciate it.

Alpha Kodiak go to the Politics file. You have the lines "Accept Treaty Base Anger Level = 25" and "Propose Treaty Base Anger Level = 30". Increase these values and the Vaxin will accept more often treaties or propose treaties themselves. The United Federation of Planets has e.g. values of 50 for both lines and accepts and proposes treaties with almost erveryone. Of course the settings in the Anger files are also important, because they should not get angry to easily. So you might change the values there too: reduce all values that increase the anger level. Again you may have a look at the files of very peaceful races to get an idea of the appropriate values.
I had the same impression in my test game, that the Vaxin are not as peaceful as you described them in the General text file.
Hope this helps!

Alpha Kodiak · #6 September 15th, 2001, 08:53 AM

Date 2402.0 Standings:

Azorani (me) 7th: 65.2K points/34.1K resources/10.7K research/27 tech/2 systems/4 planets/9 units/5 ships/1 base
Angelican 2nd: 104.7K/36.0K/8.3K/32/3/7/8/13/3
Vikings 11th: 56.5K/26.4K/6.7K/27/3/8/24/6/0
Sergetti 12th: 46.5K/14.9K/5.5K/26/1/3/40/4/2
EEEvil 6th: 65.2K/20.0K/7.8K/27/3/5/81/12/0
Rage 3rd: 82.6K/22.8K/16.2K/28/2/9/33/8/3
Xi'Chung 9th: 61.3K/18.1K/7.2K/25/2/3/0/10/2
Vaxin 4th: 72.6K/24.9K/7.7K/25/3/6/27/13/0
Aquilaeian 8th: 64.2K/27.3K/8.2K/28/2/7/408/6/1
Pyrochette 1st: 121.1K/52.9K/15.8K/34/3/10/165/13/2
Romii 10th: 60.5K/20.1K/6.8K/23/3/7/16/11/1
Toron 5th: 72.1K/23.6K/8.7K/29/2/7/20/10/1

I have had contact with the Vikings, the Sergetti and the Torons. War with the Vikings, T&R with the Torons.

The Angelican Regency is at war with the Xi'Chung. They have had no other contacts.

The Vikings are at war with me. They have had no other contacts.

The Sergetti have encountered me and the Torons. They are at war with the Torons.

The EEEvil Empire is at war with the Rage (surprise, surprise

). They have had no other contacts.

The Rage are at war with the EEEvil Empire. They have had no other contacts.

The Xi'Chung are at war with the Angelican Regency. They have had no other contacts.

The Vaxin have a TA with the Aquilaeians. They have had no other contacts.

The Aquilaeians, having just accepted a TA from the Vaxin, just declared war on the Vaxin. They have had no other contacts.

The Pyrochette have had no contacts.

The Romii have just encountered the Vikings.

The Torons have encountered the Sergetti and me. They are at war with the Sergetti and have a T&R with me.

Observations:

The Vikings and I have going at it since early in the game. That is causing problems for both of us as we lose ships and divert resources to our war machines. In addition, the Vikings have blown me off of a couple of planets. Most annoying....

The Romii are in trouble because they have a black hole with a damaging warp point two systems from home. They are now sending a lovely stream of ships into the netherworld via the black hole.

The Pyrochette are in a very strong position, isolated from the other races that are mostly trying to rip each other's hearts out. I suspect that they will do very well in this game. They usually show pretty well, anyway, and with this position, they should dominate.

The Aquilaeians' strange reversal diplomatically with the Vaxin was interesting, but AI politics usually is a little unstable.

Alpha Kodiak · #7 September 15th, 2001, 08:57 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Q:
Alpha Kodiak go to the Politics file. You have the lines "Accept Treaty Base Anger Level = 25" and "Propose Treaty Base Anger Level = 30". Increase these values and the Vaxin will accept more often treaties or propose treaties themselves. The United Federation of Planets has e.g. values of 50 for both lines and accepts and proposes treaties with almost erveryone. Of course the settings in the Anger files are also important, because they should not get angry to easily. So you might change the values there too: reduce all values that increase the anger level. Again you may have a look at the files of very peaceful races to get an idea of the appropriate values.
I had the same impression in my test game, that the Vaxin are not as peaceful as you described them in the General text file.
Hope this helps!

Thanks! I've tweaked the Version of the Vaxin that I am testing in this current game, and they actually made peace with the first race they encountered. Most refreshing....