Invasion! Beta Discussion

[Caduceus]

What's the final word, CW?

Is the first Invasion! game done?

Are there slots in the second Invasion! game?

[Combat Wombat]

The current game is basically over, it will be deleted soon.

There is still open space in the new game everyone is welcome to join.

Final Draft of Invasion! Beta 0.50 is available here:
http://www.secenter.org/Invasion050.exe

[Emperor's Child]

I'm looking over your space monsters and want a pulse check on my take:

They can't colonize, but they start out stronger and can build quicker than other players can at first. They also start out with ships with unlimited range, so could possiby reach waaaaay out and touch you...

It looks like they are a Harassment type of race that can't expand beyond their home system(s), but are a bloody mess to have next to your newly starting race, right? My guess is that they are strong until the mid game when other (surviving) players get fleets large enough to extermiante the monster nest systems.

Is this about how they play? I can't really see a winning economic model for this race other than a early-game crush of the local opponents.

I'm also curious if it was intnetional to keep them vulnerable to boarding or mental subverters...why not make the nural cores master computers? Seems pretty silly to have a big bad space monster as pets...

[Combat Wombat]

The boarding party weakness is a small error but will be fixed in the next patch. Monsters can stay powerful throughout ther whole game you just need to play them correctly. Also with the psysic trait monsters can take enemy ships and in theory colonize if you want to spend you points like that

[Emperor's Child]

Also noted the following minor bug:

In the vehicle definitions file, the picures of the Monster ships are out of order to the size of the vehicle constructed.

The Monster level 1 hull has the Lt cruiser picture,
ML2 - destroyer pic
Ml3 - Cruiser pic
ML4 - Battleship pic
ML5 - Worldship pic
ML6 - Battlecruiser pic

I'd recommend the following order:

ML1 - Destroyer pic;
ML2 - Lt Cruiser
ML3 - Cruiser
ML4 - Battlecruiser
ML5 - Battleship
ML6 - Worldship

[Combat Wombat]

Those are done that way because they look best in that order when you are using the default monster shipset

[Emperor's Child]

I guessed as much, but shouldn't the default monster pictures just be re-arranged in the order you like? That way people loading up alternate monster shipsets will have them work the way they expect. I've just uploaded a monster shipset I knocked tother (the jellies), got my empire file in, and now find out that the ships will be viewing in the wrong sequence. I'd been testing out the mod's monster race using the stock monster shipset so I didn't notice it beforehand.

[douglas]

Combat Wombat said:
Those are done that way because they look best in that order when you are using the default monster shipset

That is a problem with the shipset, and should be fixed by changing the shipset, not by compensating for it in the mod.