Carrion Woods ideas please

Gandalf Parker · #1 July 18th, 2006, 12:17 PM

If you take the Carrion Dragon as a pretender then you might want to make sure that you have the magics necessary to cast the carrion spells. It can help give you a boost in the game.

shovah · #2 July 18th, 2006, 01:46 PM

mother oak is great, it lets you mass produce unholy priests. I would rush up conjuration and possibly go into const if your making thugs or something and once you get tartarians go for thaum.

Saxon · #3 July 20th, 2006, 07:35 AM

New problem. Last night my Carrion Dragon retreated from a battle that he would have won naked, in his sleep, with his claws tired. It was in friendly dominion and one carrion critter had spawned. Mitlan attacked, killed the critter and the CD retreated. Thing was, there was nowhere to run and he was killed�

Any way around this sort of problem? I suppose some PD would have helped, but Carrion Woods is low on cash and I was expecting to lose the province. I only took it to destroy the temple, as I am counting on a lot of dominion in this game.

archaeolept · #4 July 20th, 2006, 08:52 AM

only solution is to send in sufficient troops (at the rear, on hold and attack, or fire if archers) that they are not all killed before he wins the battle. Unhappily, the retreat rules mandate that commanders retreat if their troops do; or that commanders retreat if there are no other troops and one of the commanders dies.

also, guarantee yourself a retreat path

Gandalf Parker · #5 July 20th, 2006, 12:12 PM

Did you have minor troops attached to him? Maybe bodyguards? Were they scripted or did they rush in to the attack?

The basic AI pretty much has to have a "if I have bodyguards, and they die, then Im in trouble and should retreat" type of thinking.

Cainehill · #6 July 20th, 2006, 01:27 PM

Sounds like Saxon did what is normally the smart thing to do with a single SC in a province: he didn't recruit, didn't buy any PD, so there usually wouldn't have been anything to rout and cause the SC to retreat.

But, at the beginning of the turn, before movement, a carrion beast was auto-generated by his friendly dominion. That single carrion beast was killed, causing his pretender to retreat.

It's one of the frustrating things about Dominions, and sadly I don't expect it to change in Dom3, since troops causing retreat is nominally part of the balancing of SCs.

Hmm - maybe if retreating couldn't be caused by the death of mindless units? A militia event could still cause you to retreat / get you killed, but carrion / undead freespawns, etc, could not.

shovah · #7 July 20th, 2006, 01:33 PM

or just take 1 or 2 centaur archers way at the back set to fire.

ologm · #8 July 20th, 2006, 04:17 PM

Some ideas: http://www.the-battlefield.com/forum...?showtopic=426

Growth and magic will increase the quality of randomly generated carrion critters.