I call this a bug... Is it?

[Edi]

Hellboy said:
Edi,

It sounds like Ironhawk has tested and isolated a significant bug here. Is this not worthy of inclusion on the short list?

Yes, it is.

However, remember what happened in this thread? I suppose it's time I expanded somewhat on the things I said there.

If something that is clearly an issue is reported and does not get shortlisted even after several days despite my activity here, then the probability of it having been overlooked or forgotten obviously increases and reminders could be in order.

If it's a completely new thread we're talking about (like here), I do not like to be immediately prodded and second-guessed on my timetables. The above post of mine was made, after a whole evening of playing Dom3 with Kaljamaha (hence not reading the forums at all during that time), at 1 am, approximately one minute before I went to bed so I'd wake up in time for my 8 am work shift (phone tech support, so I have opportunities for posting from work on breaks and idle time). I'm active in these forums, meaning I do read most threads, so this sort of things I WILL notice. But the fact that they do not appear on the shortlist two seconds after being posted, even if I have entered a post or two in the thread, does not mean that they are being ignored.

If you feel I am neglecting my duties as the moderator in charge of managing bug/issues reporting, then you can ask me by PM or bring it up with another moderator. This is the second time I'm getting just short of a public accusation of neglecting my duties from you and the second time I'm required to address it.

If I have to bring these points up again in the future, especially to the same people, it's going to be open flames from the get-go. Do I make myself clear?

[MaxWilson]

Edi,

It looked to me like a misguided attempt at being helpful by calling your attention to something, without thinking about the fact that invoking somebody's name doesn't automatically PM them. Perhaps I'm mistaken, but I could imagine making that mistake myself.

Thanks for the work you do so we don't have to. : )

-Max

[Edi]

Thanks, MW.

It probably was, but there is a proper way to go about these things. If things are formulated in a manner that assumes I am supposed to be on a 24/7 lookout for things posted here, in essence being "Why isn't this already up there, what's the delay?", it's going to get a poor reaction.

[Sombre]

I might as well hurl my thoughts in here, since you're all clamouring to hear them;

Edi: Don't be so touchy. I think you're misreading Hellboy. You also shouldn't really be threatening people with flames, since they break the forums rules non? The silent majority appreciate what you've done and I don't see anyone else lining up to do it.

Hellboy: Next time you might as well stick it in the buglist discussion thread yourself, in the preferred format. Takes a little bit more time, but that way it's more likely to be fixed. Helps everyone out.

Both: Chill. This is a community. You're both active in it and help keep it going. You're on the same side, effectively.

Sombre: Don't be so patronising, even if you are right. You come across as a dick.

Oh, good point.

[Edi]

Sombre:

I know he almost certainly doesn't mean it the way it comes across, but that hardly lessens the first impact. The way it was formulated was very much like getting slapped across the face.

I've suffered from the occasional instance of foot-in-mouth muyself and it isn't once or twice that I've said sorry for some misunderstandings (and that's just these forums). If it happens occasionally in unrelated context, not so bad, you don't make omelettes without breaking eggs after all. But when it happens in the same way in the same context so as to be a virtual repeat of a previous not-so-long-ago occasion, that tends to garner a stronger reaction.

It's also the implications: I feel very strongly about my duties toward the community, about the responsibility I was given. So if it appears as if my carrying them out is under question when not warranted, I'm liable to go up in flames instantly.

On the other hand, if somebody flames me to a cinder over my views on some issue that is a matter of opinion, I'll cheerfully take it on the chin and return the favor and nothing to it afterward, it's all cool.

I do appreciate your words, though.

Also, regarding the last two lines of your post: The medical bill for the broken ribs is in the mail, it has GOT to be illegal somewhere to make people laugh that hard...

[Hellboy]

Edi,

I get the point (now), and I'm sorry (especially sorry that this came up twice). I do greatly appreciate the work that you do.

My apologies,

Hellboy.

[Edi]

It's okay. Apology accepted. I do happen to like you and see a lot of good qualities in you, which might have played its own part in how this turned out. It's all cool now.