Who is the most powerful nation and why?

sector24 · #1 March 21st, 2008, 01:32 AM

LA C'tis and Arcosephale are both pretty powerful.

Aethyr · #2 March 21st, 2008, 02:26 AM

I would say LA Marignon: powerful mages/priests, blood, angels.

Lingchih · #3 March 21st, 2008, 02:27 AM

But... to play LA R'lyeh. What a beating. Yes, your recruit freespawn all over your dominion. But then, you have to feed them. And find Commanders who can lead them off to war. All the while, your commanders are going insane. Even your Starspawn will sometimes go insane. It is a powerful nation, I agree, but I will never play it again.

Aethyr · #4 March 21st, 2008, 02:30 AM

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Lingchih said:
But... to play LA R'lyeh. What a beating. Yes, your recruit freespawn all over your dominion. But then, you have to feed them. And find Commanders who can lead them off to war. All the while, your commanders are going insane. Even your Starspawn will sometimes go insane. It is a powerful nation, I agree, but I will never play it again.

And I will never play against it again!

OmikronWarrior · #5 March 21st, 2008, 04:07 AM

In the one LA game I played against R'lyeh and Ermor, Ermor won. So, I'm a might biased in that regard.

Twan · #6 March 21st, 2008, 04:31 AM

EA... I answered Fomoria, not because I think it's the only best but because it's a good example of the strengths of a good nation in EA (good sacred, high hp units, extremely good national thugs). I could have said Niefelheim or Lanka instead (EA Atlantis has these qualities too, but can't be in the list because Oceania wins in the seas).

MA... I answered Arcocephale, not because I think it's the only best but because it's a good example of the strengths of the good nations in MA (cheap and powerful mages mastering one of the overpowered paths but also diversified ; some good units for early expansion). I could have said Pythium or C'tis instead.

LA... I answered Rl'yeh, because I think it's by far the most dangerous and a good example of the strengths of the two best nations in LA (freespawns, water access). Ermor is the number two.

ano · #7 March 21st, 2008, 08:52 AM

LA R'lyeh is a splendid nation, Lingchih. And all you say about it is a matter of micromanagement. R'lyeh just requires much more of it than any other nation in the game, probably (Mictlan does require much too). But without (rather) deep micromanagement you won't do well with any nation, I think.

Jurri · #8 March 21st, 2008, 09:09 AM

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LA Ermor, I could be wrong here since I have little MP experience with or against LA R'lyeh (Basically one MP game won by Jurri playing LA R'lyeh).

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Hell no, must have been someone else

It's such an obviously imbalanced nation that I wouldn't recommend it to anyone.

I think that the most powerful nations without contest are those that have freespawns, that is, LA R'lyeh and Ermor (with R'lyeh better by a huge margin), and nations that have recruitable affordable reanimators, that is EA Lanka and MA Ermor. (Yomi has recruitable reanimators, but those are weak and expensive and capital only besides.) For obvious reasons, I would think.

coobe · #9 March 21st, 2008, 09:18 AM

i went for ea mictlan, ma ermor and la rlyeh

didnt have to think long to come up with this choice

Reverend Zombie · #10 March 21st, 2008, 11:25 AM

Lanka has lots of stuff they can do, but I find that they can't do it all in any given game, which detracts from their total power in my view.

You'll want to run up the Blood research ladder, for example, to get good summons, but that doesn't leave you with very good battle magic.

And running up the evocation ladder for Lanka's battle mages seems underwhelming. The really good air spells are pretty far up, and I think between a choice of Blood or Evo, you want to go Blood with Lanka.