Glamour Today

Sombre · #1 April 15th, 2008, 08:26 PM

With the Tuatha I think their cost is a rarity thing.

They certainly aren't top tier sacreds but they are usable and I can see people taking a one and half bless with them.

Are their shields actually better parry or just better prot? Because shield prot is irrelevant against missiles.

Cerlin · #2 April 15th, 2008, 08:30 PM

Oh really? The prot is high (22) but the parry is the same as the 15 prot shields that most the normal troops. And you are right, rarity is the issue. I was just curious for a second opinion. Also to the fact i rarely ever see them mentioned here (TNN that is.) I am even writing up a start of a guide for them but I want to get them off the ground in a MP game Im currently in.

Renojustin · #3 April 15th, 2008, 11:10 PM

The parry on golden shields is 5, which is one higher than a normal shield. Also they have a +2 damage, +1 attack, magical spear which is an awesome weapon. All in all, this unit is worth at LEAST 50 gold. I also believe that they're 2-bless material, just not as devastating as mounted vans or abysians... but then, they're 50 gold, they shouldn't be. But they can fight in denser formations as well, for better or worse. (Usually better) And don't ever underestimate darkvision.

Even though they're capital only, they have 2 map move and forest survival so they're quite mobile, and with Air miscellaneous items like Flying Carpet which are easily constructed by TNN, even more so. The trouble would be massing them in any quantity from only one fort.

But... this unit is worth 50 gold even without sacred status, just from equipment and stats, let alone abilities.

CUnknown · #4 April 16th, 2008, 02:22 AM

I agree with Renojustin, Tuatha Warriors are impressive.

quantum_mechani · #5 April 16th, 2008, 02:39 AM

I agree they are fine as is. However, I would certainly not buy them without sacred.

Corwin · #6 April 16th, 2008, 02:42 AM

I have been out of Dom3 scene for a year until few months ago - how exactly was glamour nerfed?

Cerlin · #7 April 16th, 2008, 03:13 AM

I think Extreme magic vulnerability and some arrows. and I mean by chance of hitting through the glamour for at least one point of damage. So basically with Van you can now take their glamour with arrows, just not kill them without help

something like magma bolts works well tho.

thejeff · #8 April 16th, 2008, 09:27 AM

The nerf was that mirror image no longer affects missiles. But arrows still can break the glamor.

Helheim, which was the main nation brought up in complaints about glamour, was also weakened in a few other ways. Mostly capital only svart alfar, I think.