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Old April 18th, 2008, 04:15 AM
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Default Re: How do I kill a water queen?

Another test: Gargoyles - get killed from the medusa shield.
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Old April 18th, 2008, 04:41 AM
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Default Re: How do I kill a water queen?

Another test: lvl2 astral mage paralyzed it. Wow... how did it get past 23 resistance so easily?
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Default Re: How do I kill a water queen?

My 29MR water queen got killed by lucky Disintegrate recently. I wonder what was the chancce of striking it as it looked really buggy in the end of battle.
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Default Re: How do I kill a water queen?

There is no level of MR which makes a unit invulnerable to the single-target insti-kill/disable spells. As zeldor has found even high 20 MR is not enough to protect you. The problem is severely compounded by the fact that SCs are usually the only prime (size 6) candidate for the many enemy mages to target since those spells favor larger targets.
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I find really tough guys tend to go down to fatigue spamming. As far as fatigue goes Stellar cascades, heat aura, thunderstrike, pillar of fire etc. will circumvent the MR, defense, protection, and MR and regen doesn't help. Additionally fairies, manikins, etc. don't completely circumvent it, but work pretty well in numbers. She's got reinvig, but not that much, and once she's passed out most any half decent thug should be able to pound her into the ground. (just give him good MR). Presumably she's buffing herself a couple times and with that encumbrance she'll be more than halfway passed out before you do anything...
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Old April 18th, 2008, 03:37 PM
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Baalz, you don't understand just how impossible this situation is. Your suggestions on spells are great! That's IF I have an army of mages that I can move to the right spot at the right time.

Like I said, I currently have access to any spell and any item, but I don't have access to any army setup. Again, the medusa shield pretty much kills everything. No amount of manikins, vampires, fairy queens, or ghosts will take the queen down, they die before they deal damage.

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- She is already horror marked. Spam more horrors. One of the Twin Spears can cast "Lesser Horror" in battle, Oath Rod of Kurgi gives more Horrors Marks. Combine with Quickness / Boots of Quickness for two lesser horrors per turn in battle.

- Sceptre of Corruption again coupled with Quickness. She has good regen, but not that many HPs.

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Blindfighters get killed by the Aegis, I just tested it. That's interesting that fire elementals are immune.

There is a recent thread about petrification somewhere.

Edit: I just ran a test with Fire Elementals (unit #599). They got petrified by a 100%FR unit wielding the Aegis.
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Default Re: How do I kill a water queen?

Ok, I'll let you if my water-queen killing plan will work. For now, I don't want to reveal my plan.
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Default Re: How do I kill a water queen?

She's not immune to fire OR lightning. Incinerate deals 18+ points of AN damage, so three incinerates/turn should be enough as long as the mages have decent precision. Three hits from Lightning Bolt/turn or two hits from Thunderstrike/turn would also work. Thunderstrike would also deal fatigue damage, which lowers her defence (-1 defence/10 points of fatigue, more detail on pg 76).

Pg 5 of the manual gives details about chances of beating difficult rolls. Base penetration 10 (sor S2 caster casting Paralyze) against mag res 20 (no S) is -10 in the table, or 3% chance. For S4 caster (base penetration 14), the chance would be 6% already.
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