Nation without recruitables

[Aezeal]

I think ti would be very easy. If you read the modding PDF it should be clear

create a new nation (see manual)
clear the nation (see manual)

and then I think you'd alread have a nation without recruitables

then you could add some starting troops or just do it with a pretender.

I think it's a waste of your time trying to play it though, you won't get far without recruitable mages, certainly not if you don't have blessed troops

Here, try this

I used one of my mods and removed everything that made it a nation. I'm not gonna even try it myself if it doesn't work you'll have to adjust it yourself

[thejeff]

Well it's certainly a challenge. Wouldn't try it in MP.

But against the AI? Maybe.

Strong, awake SC pretender, not reliant on buffs or items, can start taking indies with ease. Might as well start without gem income too, just to add fun.

Site search as you go, it'll slow down expansion, but finding that first indy mage site is crucial. Or better yet, just hope for nearby tribal mages or lizards. Start building indy troops everywhere you conquer and a fort on decent indies as soon as possible. It's all about the pretender design, though. You really want as close as you can get to an awake rainbow SC.

[Ninave]

You would need to have one starting priest to get the possibly recruitable shamans.

[Aezeal]

I made the dm file.. no start sites, no recruits...

not hoping for lizards I'd say since they'll curse your only troop (pretender).

I still think it's a waste of time though, you won't even survive against AI... once you have some provinces a huge army with mages who might have actually some spells researched (as opposed to whatever you have)

I think going rainbow is useless too, better high dom and a few magics you can use early on.. an immortal pretender might be the best option for your chassis though.

[MaxWilson]

You can get a starting priest by prophetizing some random indy.

-Max

P.S. I wouldn't try this in SP, not so much because I think it would be difficult (although it would be) as because I think it would be bland. But then, I identify more with the nation than the pretender anyway, and almost never use pretender SCs. YMMV.

[Aezeal]

I'd like to add that if you like a challange you could try my gangwars mod

[thejeff]

But which immortals are tough enough to solo provinces without only level 0 magic? I don't think having the pretender research 2-3 levels of magic on his own before attacking is a good plan.
A tough SC, with enough magic to bootstrap a couple of paths, find some sites for income, and forge a few boosters for the common indy mages. 2D2E2S2N maybe. Not sure what chassis. Dom9 or 10 though.

And mercs, mercs'll save you.

[Micah]

Ghost King is probably the best chassis for soloing indies along with rainbowing out a bit...he needs an air pick or two for air shield to do alright naked, but he can solo average morale melee units fairly well even without buffs and gear.

[Makinus]

Just got back from travel and catched up the thread...

Aezeal> tried your file and when i try to select a nation to play it came back with an error message: "myloadmalloc: ./mods/./Nomads and genies/EA_djiniibad_icon.tga" (im doing something wrong?)

I like the idea of some "generic" indys in the starting province... it would give a better feel for what i´m trying to do....

On an side note: would be too hard to do this in dominions 2? I ask because i only play dom3 in my main machine, as my notebook only can handle dom2...

I´ll reread the pdfs and see what i can do...

[Aezeal]

ow lol the icon file is still there.. delete that line I'd say