|
|
|
 |

April 27th, 2009, 10:52 AM
|
 |
Major General
|
|
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Columbus, OH
Posts: 2,204
Thanks: 67
Thanked 49 Times in 31 Posts
|
|
USB Stick Install
I have a USB stick, and I'd love to be able to install dominions 3 to it and run the game from there while I'm at school so that I can check my gmail account and play turns from the public computers without installing anything onto them. Does anyone have any experience with doing that?
Our school computers are Vista D:
Jazzepi
|

April 27th, 2009, 11:21 AM
|
Corporal
|
|
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 141
Thanks: 3
Thanked 7 Times in 6 Posts
|
|
Re: USB Stick Install
It would be really, really slow, and the stick would have a very short lifespan.
|

April 27th, 2009, 01:30 PM
|
Major General
|
|
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Seattle
Posts: 2,497
Thanks: 165
Thanked 105 Times in 73 Posts
|
|
Re: USB Stick Install
I don't think it would cause any particular problems with the stick's lifespan, would it? Lifespan is limited by the number of writes, and running an .exe from off a stick just involves reads. The only writing you'd be doing is the ftherlnd and .2h/.trn files.
I haven't tried it, but I bet you could just copy your whole dom3 directory onto the stick and run it like normal. It probably would be a little bit slow to load, but it would work.
-Max
__________________
Bauchelain - "Qwik Ben iz uzin wallhax! HAX!"
Quick Ben - "lol pwned"
["Memories of Ice", by Steven Erikson. Retranslated into l33t.]
|

April 27th, 2009, 02:17 PM
|
 |
First Lieutenant
|
|
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Russia, GMT +3
Posts: 623
Thanks: 117
Thanked 57 Times in 45 Posts
|
|
Re: USB Stick Install
I travel pretty often becouse of my work and have dominions installed on my USB stick for about a year and never had a single problem. I ran it on many different PC's during that time and can say the speed of the game is the same as if you run it on HDD, and depends only on PC characteristics (mainly processor and video card). And dominions work fine with Vista.
P.S. Why worry about USB stick lifespan anyway? Prices on them drop rapidly.
|

April 27th, 2009, 02:22 PM
|
 |
Major General
|
|
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Columbus, OH
Posts: 2,204
Thanks: 67
Thanked 49 Times in 31 Posts
|
|
Re: USB Stick Install
Quote:
Originally Posted by MaxWilson
I don't think it would cause any particular problems with the stick's lifespan, would it? Lifespan is limited by the number of writes, and running an .exe from off a stick just involves reads. The only writing you'd be doing is the ftherlnd and .2h/.trn files.
I haven't tried it, but I bet you could just copy your whole dom3 directory onto the stick and run it like normal. It probably would be a little bit slow to load, but it would work.
-Max
|
I'd be surprised if it adversely affected my USB stick's life span too much. I figure the program would load itself into memory, and then munch on the USB card some more to get the data off for a particular game.
From wikipedia, with an emphasis on the write cycle. It does mention of read cycles damaging the flash memory once:
Quote:
Limited write (erase) cycles: Flash-memory cells will often wear out after 1,000 to 10,000 write cycles for MLC, and up to 100,000 write cycles for SLC[15], while high endurance cells may have an endurance of 1–5 million write cycles (many log files, file allocation tables, and other commonly used parts of the file system exceed this over the lifetime of a computer).[30][31][32] Special file systems or firmware designs can mitigate this problem by spreading writes over the entire device (so-called wear leveling), rather than rewriting files in place.[33] In 2008 wear leveling was just beginning to be incorporated into consumer level devices.[15] However, effective write cycles can be much less, because when a write request is made to a particular memory block, all data in the block is overwritten even when only part of the memory is altered. The write amplification, as referred by Intel, can be reduced using write memory buffer.[34] In combination with wear leveling, over-provisioning SSD flash drives with spared memory capacity also delays the loss of user-accessible memory capacity. NAND memory can be negatively impacted by read and program (write) disturbs arising from over accessing a particular NAND location. This overuse of NAND locations causes bits within the NAND block to erroneously change values. Wear leveling, by redirecting SSD writes to lesser-used NAND locations, thus reduces the potential for program or write disturbs.[35] An example for the lifetime of SSD is explained in detail in this wiki.[dubious – discuss] SSDs based on DRAM, however, do not suffer from this problem.
|
|

April 27th, 2009, 02:23 PM
|
 |
Major General
|
|
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Columbus, OH
Posts: 2,204
Thanks: 67
Thanked 49 Times in 31 Posts
|
|
Re: USB Stick Install
Quote:
Originally Posted by WingedDog
I travel pretty often becouse of my work and have dominions installed on my USB stick for about a year and never had a single problem. I ran it on many different PC's during that time and can say the speed of the game is the same as if you run it on HDD, and depends only on PC characteristics (mainly processor and video card). And dominions work fine with Vista.
P.S. Why worry about USB stick lifespan anyway? Prices on them drop rapidly.
|
Awesome. I'll have to try this out then.
Jazzepi
|

April 27th, 2009, 03:35 PM
|
 |
Second Lieutenant
|
|
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Ellicott City, MD
Posts: 401
Thanks: 15
Thanked 18 Times in 13 Posts
|
|
Re: USB Stick Install
I've done it before, and it runs fine.
|

April 28th, 2009, 01:51 AM
|
 |
National Security Advisor
|
|
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Eastern Finland
Posts: 7,110
Thanks: 145
Thanked 153 Times in 101 Posts
|
|
Re: USB Stick Install
I just copied the game files and it works fine.
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is On
|
|
|
|
|