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[Baalz]

Originally Posted by Corinthian

Actually, the lack of hammers in CBM 1.7 might just increase this problem. I have been playing in kings of drama using CBM 1.7 for 33 turns now, and I have yet to see a single thug in the game so far. I'm sort of starting to doubt I will see one until the tartarians start showing up. Because they are the only chassis that are powerful enough that you can afford to put expensive equipment on them without hammers.

Of course, all those gems are probably going somewhere else instead. But were? I don't know?

Oh I doubt that. There are plenty of chasises that are effective enough with a frost brand and vine shield or something similarly priced, and a smaller number that can get away with just a good shield if you're clever about it. 15 gems (plus the cost of the chasis) is a very reasonable price for something that can reliably clear PD out as a raider, and not *that* far from the 10 it'd cost you with hammers. Heck, you'd have to outfit three thugs thusly to break even for the cost of your first hammer, and assuming you were making multiple hammers before its not much of a stretch at all to say you could easily outfit 10+ light thugs with the same number of gems you were doing your first 10 thugs using hammers. Thing is, most people tend to go overboard and use 50 gems worth of equipment when 15 would work. Know what you want to accomplish, and use just enough resources to reliably do that.

[Corinthian]

Originally Posted by Baalz

Oh I doubt that. There are plenty of chasises that are effective enough with a frost brand and vine shield or something similarly priced, and a smaller number that can get away with just a good shield if you're clever about it. 15 gems (plus the cost of the chasis) is a very reasonable price for something that can reliably clear PD out as a raider, and not *that* far from the 10 it'd cost you with hammers. Heck, you'd have to outfit three thugs thusly to break even for the cost of your first hammer, and assuming you were making multiple hammers before its not much of a stretch at all to say you could easily outfit 10+ light thugs with the same number of gems you were doing your first 10 thugs using hammers. Thing is, most people tend to go overboard and use 50 gems worth of equipment when 15 would work. Know what you want to accomplish, and use just enough resources to reliably do that.

This is probably true in and of it self. Never had any luck with light thugs against the AI though.

There is still, however, the problem of psychology. If you have a hammer, then you are going to use that hammer every turn, even if there is not anything you want with it. That way you wind up with equipment that you would otherwise not have. Witch you might as well summon some bane lords to wear. Without hammers, people will not make thugs in the same wanton manner.