MP Morla MA noob game (running) - Page 27

Olm · #**261** December 1st, 2011, 04:53 AM

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Originally Posted by SpaceViking21

Of course, all diplomacy in Dominions 3 is a farce. We're just busting Man because he's only giving the barest lip service to a coherent casus belli and (to me at least) sounds like he's putting lipstick on a landgrab rather than putting together a reasonable foreign policy.

To put it another way, everyone in Dominions 3 is after one thing. To win. Therefore, the worst possible thing you can do is make it look like you're going for the win now. You want to dress up your intentions and slowly work until you can't be stopped any more, rather than put all your chips on the table and make yourself the guy to beat. Had Man stuck to one gun (Limiting me or the stability of Ermor), any diplomacy myself or Tien tried would be our word vs theirs, at least as far as trying to start a bigger war. However, using both makes him seem duplicitous, like he's already decided what he's going to do and now he's just putting a dress on it for a night on the town, especially when the results of both actions are basically the same (taking my land on the island, or taking my land on the island and going further). It's hard to make yourself seem trustworthy when your actions aren't consistent with your words, and are instead consistent with the ultimate goal.

tl;dr version: Diplomacy in this game is ultimately a joke, but not playing the game at all, or playing it badly can be viewed as a threat.

I like this diplomatic hassle.
And I have to say I admire how well TC plays that game of diplomacy and how he can talk a blue sky green. I'd never be able to do it on that level, even in my own language.

As for my bad diplomacy: It gave me all I wanted: options. This turn I had all options for this game on my table, and it was my decision, which of them to chose.
Morla will probably tell you about my choice soon

One more thing: For me there is one thing much more important than victory, and that is: having fun! Sometimes even fun as defined in another great game: Fun

Olm · #**262** December 4th, 2011, 03:24 PM

We announce that the nation of Man has been attacked without any provocation by Pythium.
Three of Our provinces have been seized by Pythium raiding forces. So as of now the nation of Man is at war with Pythium out of Pythiums own choice.

shatner · #**263** December 4th, 2011, 03:39 PM

We're holding a celebratory dinner in the halls of T'ien Ch'i. The sake will flow freely tonight.

Olm · #**264** December 4th, 2011, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by shatner

We're holding a celebratory dinner in the halls of T'ien Ch'i. The sake will flow freely tonight.

Whatever happens, you will not see the day of Avalons destruction.

shatner · #**265** December 4th, 2011, 04:07 PM

Maybe not but you still got a lot of fort to dig through before we're well and truly dead. Also, we would have sworn the same thing about Ermor just a couple of months ago...

Olm · #**266** December 4th, 2011, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by shatner

Maybe not but you still got a lot of fort to dig through before we're well and truly dead. Also, we would have sworn the same thing about Ermor just a couple of months ago...

Yes, rest assured We are working on plans for that fort.
The difference to Ermor is: There is just noone left who could turn the tide for you. I am at war with everyone, or will be when the NAP with Ulm expires in one months time.

Olm · #**267** December 4th, 2011, 04:35 PM

The server shows my file as being received, though I didn't send one.
Morla, it would be nice if you could turn off quickhost until I tell here that I sent in a correct one.

Immaculate · #**268** December 4th, 2011, 05:02 PM

Olm; anyone who doesn't go to war with you has basically decided to not contest your victory- tallest tree getting cut first and all that right?

Olm · #**269** December 4th, 2011, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Immaculate

Olm; anyone who doesn't go to war with you has basically decided to not contest your victory- tallest tree getting cut first and all that right?

Well I basically elaborated on your options in the PM.
You made your decision and I can perfectly understand it.

I made my decision too. I could have had a shared victory with Ulm. But that would have been a dull end to a great game. I opted for the fun of a world war with dubious chances for victory.

I will have to live with the consequences of my decision, as do you. But I hope we have fun on the way

Immaculate · #**270** December 4th, 2011, 05:35 PM

exactly- and to be honest i was getting bored. fighting machaka was so long ago.

edit; but yeah- this should be more fun for me for sure.