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June 18th, 2012, 06:00 PM
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Re: Official release of the unofficial Dominions 3 Wiki
"stop" "misusing" "quotation" "marks"
And you are wrong. 99% of the good sites out there are not just static pages. Without scripts it would not be able to edit them.
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June 18th, 2012, 06:27 PM
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Re: Official release of the unofficial Dominions 3 Wiki
sorry, don't get either of your points
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June 19th, 2012, 01:04 PM
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Re: Official release of the unofficial Dominions 3 Wiki
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Without scripts it would not be able to edit them.
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Oops, this does not make sense.
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Oh dear, why the unnecessary capitalization?
Perhaps this will help:
http://www.wikihow.com/Be-a-Grammar-Nazi
ok, I'm just being an *******, sry 
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June 19th, 2012, 05:07 PM
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Re: Official release of the unofficial Dominions 3 Wiki
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Without scripts it would not be able to edit them.
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Oops, this does not make sense.
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What he means is that the way a wiki works is that anyone can edit it, and if it were just text, this would not be possible.
On a wiki, you can edit an article and add your own information. You can create internal links to other articles and transclude certain pages onto others.
Take a look at how Wikipedia works, and please leave the 90's for the 21st century.
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June 19th, 2012, 07:59 PM
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Re: Official release of the unofficial Dominions 3 Wiki
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Without scripts it would not be able to edit them.
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Oops, this does not make sense.
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What he means is that the way a wiki works is that anyone can edit it, and if it were just text, this would not be possible.
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yeah, I knew what he meant, I was just being a counter-grammar-nazi.
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June 20th, 2012, 04:34 AM
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Re: Official release of the unofficial Dominions 3 Wiki
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Originally Posted by momfreeek
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What he means is that the way a wiki works is that anyone can edit it, and if it were just text, this would not be possible.
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yeah, I knew what he meant, I was just being a counter-grammar-nazi.
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Brxbrx has correctly inferred the meaning of my badly written text.
Momfreeek, would you say you are just trolling here now?
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June 20th, 2012, 04:32 AM
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Re: Official release of the unofficial Dominions 3 Wiki
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Originally Posted by momfreeek
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Originally Posted by Soyweiser
Without scripts it would not be able to edit them.
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Oops, this does not make sense.
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Originally Posted by Soyweiser
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Oh dear, why the unnecessary capitalization?
Perhaps this will help:
http://www.wikihow.com/Be-a-Grammar-Nazi
ok, I'm just being an *******, sry 
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Thank you for pointing out the mistakes. I would edit them, but sadly the forum doesn't allow me to edit posts past a certain time frame.
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June 21st, 2012, 03:59 PM
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Re: Official release of the unofficial Dominions 3 Wiki
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Originally Posted by Soyweiser
"stop" "misusing" "quotation" "marks"
And you are wrong. 99% of the good sites out there are not just static pages. Without scripts it would not be able to edit them.
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@Soy
I use quotes (among other things) if the word I'm using is not exactly right. When I say "scripts", I know it might be scripts, or programs, or transformers, or whatever. I don't know if his site is really "down", maybe it's running fine but not available. Seems like standard English usage to me as long as I can remember. You're probably pleased that "Waterstone's" got renamed (or perhaps you'd prefer Waterstone's).
@Elsewhere
As for the points about the (Dom3) Wiki content. Yes, I do realise (especially e.g. with Wordpress) that most stuff is delivered dynamically --- and so much the worse for delivery speed and processing usage. My point was that, as an information source with loads of text and little if any interaction, the content is static in nature. When I read the pages that's what I'm accessing.
At times you ask questions here with no intention other than an innocent & polite query for information and you get shouted at.
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June 22nd, 2012, 09:39 AM
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Re: Official release of the unofficial Dominions 3 Wiki
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@Elsewhere
As for the points about the (Dom3) Wiki content. Yes, I do realise (especially e.g. with Wordpress) that most stuff is delivered dynamically --- and so much the worse for delivery speed and processing usage.
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A couple of other things that maybe you're not taking into account:
1. I could be wrong but I'd be surprised if you aren't using far more power to download and view the site than is used to serve it. All that messing about powering the monitor, rendering html into boxes and text on a square page and smoothing the edges of letters. Parsing a script and piecing together a few lists of characters from a database is not such a big deal. Thats not to say its not worth optimising server usage and the (widely used) solution that turns dynamic content into static content is "caching".
2. Developer time is (in general) far more valuable than processing time. Whatever solution you might think is worthwhile to make the site work better, it would perhaps make far more sense to simply buy better hardware to run the existing, working system, especially for a site used by relatively so few people.
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June 22nd, 2012, 10:40 AM
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Re: Official release of the unofficial Dominions 3 Wiki
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@Soy
I use quotes (among other things) if the word I'm using is not exactly right. When I say "scripts", I know it might be scripts, or programs, or transformers, or whatever. I don't know if his site is really "down", maybe it's running fine but not available. Seems like standard English usage to me as long as I can remember. You're probably pleased that "Waterstone's" got renamed (or perhaps you'd prefer Waterstone's).
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Yeah, but that is wrong use of quotation marks. It is used to indicate either a quote, or sarcasm. There is no way for the reader to know if you mean it sarcastic, as something you are unsure about etc.
So it would be better if you would have just written. scripts(*)
*:unsure if this is the correct term.
This sentence : "I don't know if his site is really "down"," is really hard for me to understand fully. I don't really see what you can mean with "down". I assumed you just used the quotes wrong.
And yeah, I was acting like a little schoolgirl. My bad  . I get defensive about the wiki... :P
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