Finnish OOB 6.0

[dmnt]

Remove
Patria IFV

Patria IFV with autocannon, stabilizer etc. was probably a guesswork addition at the time but there seems to be no such thing in FDF. Instead APC variants with turreted MG and AGL. The IFV should probably be removed altogether as there's no such thing in sight. Also XA-203s with autocannons are yet to be found.

In Afghanistan operation there's been XA-203s in separate configuration, but I'm unable to find any reference if there was additional HEAT protection or anything. One thing is for sure, the weapon was the standard 12.7 mm TMG.

Sorry, can't link straight to the pictures: http://www.puolustusvoimat.fi/wcm/Er...si/Afganistan/

[DRG]

Originally Posted by dmnt

Remove
Patria IFV

Patria IFV with autocannon, stabilizer etc. was probably a guesswork addition at the time

...more likely the result of adding it based on someones helpful recommendation that this certainly going to be added based on the manufacturers optimistic predictions which is why now I don't add ANYTHING to the OOB until it's ACTUALLY in the troops grubby little hands which is why you won't find any changes in the OOB based on info like " XXX will be out of service by the middle of this decade and the replacement will be bought next year ....."

I know I've said this before but maybe it was in a PM to someone else. I will simply ignore ANY info on what MIGHT be produced and am now ONLY interested in weapons and equipment that is actually in service so everyone can save themselves a lot of time and effort by NOT posting things like the the patrol boat "Track follow". I don't care, I don't even cut and paste them to the list and they have no relevance until they are commissioned.

We USED TO be interested in things like this to add some flavour to the future years covered by the OOB's but I'm fed up with creating Icons for things that never see the light of day and then having to pull them from the OOB's.




Don

[dmnt]

Originally Posted by DRG

I know I've said this before but maybe it was in a PM to someone else. I will simply ignore ANY info on what MIGHT be produced and am now ONLY interested in weapons and equipment that is actually in service so everyone can save themselves a lot of time and effort by NOT posting things like the the patrol boat "Track follow". I don't care, I don't even cut and paste them to the list and they have no relevance until they are commissioned.

We USED TO be interested in things like this to add some flavour to the future years covered by the OOB's but I'm fed up with creating Icons for things that never see the light of day and then having to pull them from the OOB's.

I hear you. The reason why I'm also placing these things that are yet to come is to give the links for later use for specifications or more information. Don't get me wrong, I'm not expecting you guys to track and follow every piece of equipment ordered or negotiated around the world. Instead I use this kind of information to make our home-cooked OOBs to use in our battles between friends.

Patria IFV looks to be based on one configuration Patria is indeed selling, but not the one that FDF was buying.

And now for something completely real. FDF has bought M134D "Minigun" gatling guns for use with the NH-90 helicopters. First batch is expected to be delivered before the end of this year when they will practice shooting and maintaining them on platforms on ground. They'll be installed on helicopters the next year.

The conscript magazine: link, page 13