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DRG · #1 January 13th, 2020, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by FASTBOAT TOUGH

So to start things off...
UKRAINE/ADD/T-64 BULAT-M17 or T-64 BULAT-2017?//
Major revisions to the T-64 BULAT were conducted in mid/late 2017. Areas affected improved VISION, STABILZATION, ERA and SURVIBILITY. Verifying possible SPEED increase and a couple of other factors.

Just need the name please you'd like to use. I'm leaning towards the first and the UKRAINE IS NO HELP as I've seen two or three different designations for it from various sources since it was announced.

Regards,
Pat

Pat Ukrainian Unit 32 is a 2016 upgrade that brings it up to tier 1 levels...... there is some room for improvement but not a lot

We're all just guessing anyway but I don't think no matter what they do it will be equal to a SEP. I can give it a try though and see what I get. I will use T-64 Bulat M17

FASTBOAT TOUGH · #2 January 13th, 2020, 05:11 PM

Hope to post my input on the T-64 M17 later tonight. I used for my research the latest T-64 BULAT (Probably same as you sent me.), OPLOT and OPLOT-M (As you sent about the SEP, it won't be an OPLOT-M either.).

About SADF, with all the "fits and starts", it was the culmination of seven years of research that started very confusedly bouncing the OOB against the data, think INDIA here.

Current MBT status as of this writing:
https://www.defenceweb.co.za/securit...defence-force/
Armour
191: 177 Olifant 1A/B (Of which 133 in storage) and 26 Olifant Mk 2 (for training)
(The above website is a dedicated all Africa Defense site.)
(This site is missing the Olifant Mk 2B.)
http://www.army.mil.za/equipment/wea...ant_equipm.htm
(The above is missing the Olifant 1B.
It is very much there and improved as submitted, around 2010 I believe. (Along with the above "missing" tank which also had a ton of references to support their existence, you hopefully will have a better understanding of why I walked away from this SADF issue over that time period I mentioned above.)

Gotta get that "military" haircut (Flat top for my three hairs and a hot towel shave, it's almost heaven!?!)

Regards,
Pat

FASTBOAT TOUGH · #3 January 13th, 2020, 10:00 PM

SPMBT Patch Post for 2019/2020
UKRAINE/ADD/T-64 BULAT M17/COPY UNIT O32 T-64BM BULAT/CHANGE/START JUN 2018/EW 2 APS/RADIO 90/VISION TI/GSR45/FC 45/STABILIZER 5/ERA HF 16/HS 16/HR 0/TF 16/TS 16/TR 0/TOP 16/USED UNITS 032 T-64BM BULAT/UNIT 063 T-84 OPLOT+/UNIT 064 T-84 OPLOT-M AS BASELINE UNITS //First off it looks like UNIT 032 should also be equipped with the same EW as the T-64 BULAT M17. The T-64 BULAT’s are the main frontline tanks at Ukraine’s Eastern sector and were in need of further modernization because of this as shown in combat, even though they showed themselves as more than a match against the rebel’s T-72 tanks. I don’t think up to the ERA numbers there’s any problems here. And I really feel very comfortable about those ERA numbers as this represents a much improved NOZH (KNIFE) ERA. It essentially falls between NOZH II and the DUPLEX ERA’s. I’ll have to find my original posts on the this tank as I think they had better information in them. But I hope for now this will do. Please let me know.
https://www.armyrecognition.com/febr...mor_plant.html
https://nationalinterest.org/blog/bu...-russia-112166

Regards,
Pat

Postscript: See from MBT Thread, Post #924 Pg. 93 Aug. 15, 2019 10:22pm, this covers the above T-64 BULAT M17. Also ALL the refs are working still which have better information about the tanks modernization. About last ref, it should read pages 13-14 (Engine) and 16-17 (ERA Basic)

Pat