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Old February 22nd, 2001, 11:53 PM

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Default The harm that software pirates do

Software piracy sucks. Rationalize it as you will, it still sucks.

And while most of us could state very briefly the direct harm they do, the response to the post by Ubik illustrates the indirect harm they do. Software Piracy, like cheating, creates an atmosphere of hostility and suspicion, in which the innocent are often falsely accused on the basis of scanty evidence.

Ubik, I'm sorry. Personally, I'm convinced that you are innocent of all wrong-doing or criminal intent.

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Old February 23rd, 2001, 12:55 AM

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Default Re: The harm that software pirates do

Agreed while what Ubik said may have been the full and compleate truth, sending an exe file is piracy regardless of the condition.

I myself have been waiting for this game for several weeks and I am truly dieing to play it but I would never ask for an exe file it's illegal, unjust, and amoral. Especilay with small companies like MM they can't aford it. Patience is a very long and often frustrating virtue but it's woth the effort. Besides it's just that much better if you had to wait for it
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Old February 23rd, 2001, 03:15 AM

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Default Re: The harm that software pirates do

Personally I think it is up to MM/Shrapnel to decide weather to give the guy the exe file. They just need to check their customer records, if the guy bought it once I don't see why they wouldn't replace it. After all the gut was from Portugal right? I'm sure they don't have 1000's of customers there. Should be easy enough to check.
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Old February 23rd, 2001, 03:40 AM

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Default Re: The harm that software pirates do

Sigh. Well, I'm a bit disappointed that both of you seem to have missed my real point (the general situation) in your focus on the specific.

But I suppose I shouldn't be surprised.

I am NOT saying that anyone should send him the EXE. In fact, we shouldn't send it to him. But that wasn't my main point.
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Old February 23rd, 2001, 03:42 AM

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Default Re: The harm that software pirates do

Yes, Possum. You speak wise words. That is the complete truth.

As for sending a file being illegal, I believe it is, but after all, who really buys a product paying too much attention to the legal babble of the agreement, specially that part that ilibates the developer of any damages done to our computer (like formating drive C for example)?
If I was taking it too seriously, I would never have bought the 50-60 titles I am now looking at at my desk...

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after all, I know I am legal. I am not afraid of telling you who I am, neither I am afraid of any kind of search. I have the CD. I have the Credit Card Transfer.


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Old February 23rd, 2001, 03:47 AM
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Default Re: The harm that software pirates do

What I want to know is where did you get a job that allows you to sit and play a game all day long. (I am taking the idea that you do not work for a gaming company, game research company.)
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Old February 23rd, 2001, 03:58 AM
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Default Re: The harm that software pirates do

quote:
Originally posted by Dracus:
What I want to know is where did you get a job that allows you to sit and play a game all day long. (I am taking the idea that you do not work for a gaming company, game research company.)


A friend of mine works at a bank, and he kept up in a PBEM game that he played from work for a while. I have time to read this friggin board every day, and it would probably take less time for me to just play the game. how many office workers do you seek playing solitare, or computer guys playing quake in the office? its not that rare to come by.

A better question is, where do I find a job that will keep me interested, engaged, and occupied such that I dont have to twiddle my diddle sitting here on this forum all the time.

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Old February 23rd, 2001, 04:03 AM
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At my job , if they catch ypu playing games of any kind, they will fire you and I support computers al day.
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Old February 23rd, 2001, 01:32 PM

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Default Re: The harm that software pirates do

Well guys, I never said I would play it all day long... Also I dont understand what this has to do with my request for the EXE file.

But strictly for the record,I played it for 2 and a half hours, from 1p.m. to 3:30p.m.
I arrived at home at 10:30p.m.

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Last but not the least... I AM THE BOSS. I try to catch the others (well really I dont try... as far as they have their projects on schedule we can all have some nice network games... I find this much more efficient management wise than playing bad cop).
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Old February 23rd, 2001, 06:00 PM

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Wish you were my boss, anyway this is the problem with message Boards they get a little convoluted and the original purpose is lost, but it's kinda cool seeing where the conversation will go next.
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