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				April 25th, 2007, 11:46 AM
			
			
			
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				 Tartarian Gate, but no Titan? 
 I just cast Tartarian Gate and saw no Titan appear. Is there some probability of this result? Or is there some weirdness (or possibly a weirdness that can be avoided?), that might be causing this to occur? |  
	
		
	
	
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				April 25th, 2007, 12:08 PM
			
			
			
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				 Re: Tartarian Gate, but no Titan? 
 I cast a lot of titans and never had a problem with it. You know that a titan only has a 20% chance of being a commander?
 Is the spell in the message list?
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				April 25th, 2007, 12:09 PM
			
			
			
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				 Re: Tartarian Gate, but no Titan? 
 Tartarian gate summons a titan as soldier not a commander. You have to use gift of reason to make him a commander. |  
	
		
	
	
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				April 25th, 2007, 12:34 PM
			
			
			
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				 Re: Tartarian Gate, but no Titan? 
 the same issue with wish. wish for a nataraja and doesn't seem to be there, but it is in the army setup as a unit. 
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				April 25th, 2007, 12:46 PM
			
			
			
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				 Re: Tartarian Gate, but no Titan? 
  I do not play death pretenders too much, but i think there are a limited number of them, and if they have all been summoned none will respond. 
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				April 25th, 2007, 12:54 PM
			
			
			
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				 Re: Tartarian Gate, but no Titan? 
 
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		| calmon said: I cast a lot of titans and never had a problem with it. You know that a titan only has a 20% chance of being a commander?
 
 Is the spell in the message list?
 
 |  I knew that! (But, yes I did forget    )  I'm not at home, but I'm pretty sure that's the problem and I'll find out when I get back. It's good to know the % chance for getting a commander - thanks! |  
	
		
	
	
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				April 25th, 2007, 05:14 PM
			
			
			
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				 Re: Tartarian Gate, but no Titan? 
 
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		| Xietor said: I do not play death pretenders too much, but i think there are a limited number of them, and if they have all been summoned none will respond.
 
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				 Re: Tartarian Gate, but no Titan? 
  If they are unlimited in Dom III, that was definitely not the case in Dom II. 
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				April 25th, 2007, 05:43 PM
			
			
			
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				 Re: Tartarian Gate, but no Titan? 
 I thought they were unlimited in both... I've definitely summoned a fair batch of them including duplicates in both Doms2 and Doms3 |  
	
		
	
	
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				 Re: Tartarian Gate, but no Titan? 
  I have not played death in a long time, but i clearly remember getting the message that no more of that unit was available to answer the call, or something like that.
 And my MP opponent at the time was playing ermor, and he had them all. But that was definitely in dom II, not III.
 
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