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				 Standard Bearers - NOT NATIONAL STANDARDS 
 Does anyone know the exact mechanics for standards?
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				August 30th, 2007, 12:33 PM
			
			
			
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				 Re: Standards 
 You mean the flags in the game? There is a mod you can look at which replaced all of the standards for all of the nations. Its just a text file. Take a look at it. Very easy to do.
 Subnote: if you are planning to redo the standards I have a request. As you are redoing the nations into something new and slick... Please, also, redo the indepts to something lesser. Like maybe half the size they are now?
 
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				August 30th, 2007, 12:35 PM
			
			
			
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				 Re: Standards 
 I think it's in the manual. I believe Standard (n) gives units in n squares surrounding the bearer a +1 morale bonus at the start of each round. This is cumulative, although a unit can never get greater that +5 to its base morale. I think somehow the morale bonus slowly wears off as well if the units move away from the standard.
 Anyway, the gist is that if you have a fair few standards mixed in with a unit, soon enough everyone will have +5 morale - it's a big effect!
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				August 30th, 2007, 12:39 PM
			
			
			
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				 Re: Standards 
 Does that show up in the displayed Morale?
 Some things do and I think some don't.
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				August 30th, 2007, 12:46 PM
			
			
			
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				 Re: Standards 
 I mean the standards that units carry around. I'm playing MA C'Tis in a game against Emor, and was using frighten to bring their units' morale into the negative teens (-15) and in the next turn or two they'd be right back to a positive number.
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				 Re: Standards 
 thejeff - yep, I think it does.
 Jazzepi - units' morale recovers reasonably quickly from morale-reducing spells.
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				 Re: Standards 
 Wow, I didn't know standards were that good. Ermor usually doesn't have morale problems, but I'm definitely giving them a shot in my current game. |  
	
		
	
	
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		| Gandalf Parker said: You mean the flags in the game? There is a mod you can look at which replaced all of the standards for all of the nations. Its just a text file. Take a look at it. Very easy to do.
 
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 |  Much like AI nations, you've mentioned this several times, thinking people are doing it or suggesting they do it. This leads me to believe it's something you want done. Given that you just said yourself it's very easy to do, my question is this: Why don't you do it? |  
	
		
	
	
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				 Re: Standards 
 I have done it. For myself.But Id like to see it done for general use by the community (a territory I tend to avoid both here and in other things I do). So I like to mention it in connection with anyone who might be interested in doing a full blown flags mod.
 
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 So what you're saying is you've done it, but you won't provide it to the community and you want someone else to do what you've already done, so you keep mentioning it even though no-one other than you (that I've seen) has expressed any interest in it.
 Is that roughly correct?
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