Resource question

CW · #1 August 9th, 2001, 06:31 PM

SITUATION: Say you are in a simutaneous game and you have storage space for 50000 of each resource. You are making 20000 minerals (NET gain, after deducting expenses) a turn. Maintenance and build queues cost you 40000 minerals a turn. Assume that you currently have 50000 minerals in the bank (ie storage fully filled).

QUESTION: If you use the resource converter and convert 20000 minerals to the other two types of resources, would you go bankrupt next turn (the classic cash flow problem)? Does the game give you the resources first THEN deduct maintenance/queue (bad), the other way around (bad), or deduct the costs from the sum of mineral in stock + income (good)?

[This message has been edited by CW (edited 09 August 2001).]

Daeromont · #2 August 9th, 2001, 07:57 PM

As I'm a new player, I don't have your answers, but instead would like to expand the question to this scenario since it is somewhat related:

An enemy race surrendered to my forces, granting me all their resources...which was far more than my ability to store. I lost them all the next turn, however, I was wondering... if I had tried to trade them off to other computer players, would it have worked? I'm not sure at what point the program calculates storage vs. allows trade. Thanks!

geoschmo · #3 August 9th, 2001, 08:56 PM

CW,
In your example, the order to convert resources would happen first, dropping you to 30K, then your resources coming in would be generated, then any maintenance is deducted, then resources spent for construction. If I understand your figures (you said you were generating 20K more than you are spending right?) you should be back to 50K in storage at the beginning of your next turn.

Daeromont, I believe in your case you would lose the resources. Any resources at the end of your turn above the storage limit are lost. If you offer resources to another race, the transaction does not occur until they accept, which will be during the next turn. So the resources would come out of your storage amount next turn instead of the surplus this turn.

Geoschmo

CW · #4 August 10th, 2001, 08:25 AM

quote:
In your example, the order to convert resources would happen first, dropping you to 30K, then your resources coming in would be generated, then any maintenance is deducted, then resources spent for construction. If I understand your figures (you said you were generating 20K more than you are spending right?) you should be back to 50K in storage at the beginning of your next turn.

Ok I get it. Now a second question: When does the resources above my storage capacity get deducted? In other words, if my maintenance + build queue is over my storage capacity would I go broke even if I'm making a net gain?

Puke · #5 August 10th, 2001, 09:34 AM

quote:
Originally posted by geoschmo:

Daeromont, I believe in your case you would lose the resources. Any resources at the end of your turn above the storage limit are lost. If you offer resources to another race, the transaction does not occur until they accept, which will be during the next turn. So the resources would come out of your storage amount next turn instead of the surplus this turn.

you would think so, but I got in the habit of giving away surplus resources, and they always seem to come out of the excess. maybe it was coming out of the excess for the next turn rather than the prior turn though, hard to say.

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