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March 2nd, 2004, 06:34 AM
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Worst place to start a combat...
So here I am, rampaging through the ST universe with a small fleet of 16 assimilator-class Tactical cubes & normal cubes, accompanied by 5 battle cubes, when i see a fleet of 25 ships that would make for some nice decoys during the forthcoming invasion. This fleet is orbiting an ally's homeworld (i'm playing in team mode - 5 AIs on hard with medium bonuses vs. me) and i know for a fact that they have rather... dated.. weaponry. My first choice is to attack. Knowing the annoying BS that has happened before, I save the game *just in case* it happens again. Well, it does.
I sent my fleet over, and they start RIGHT ON TOP of the planet. It's so bad that even then very first weapons platform that the enemy built - equipped with the shortest range and weakest gun available - is able to hit the ship that is the farthest away. Of course, they also have over a hundred more modern platforms.
As if starting at point blank range of everything the enemy with the planet isn't bad enough, the fleet is split into two sub-fleets... one on each side of me. Let me draw a picture here:
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enemy me enemy
____________________ <-- map border
Normally I wouldn't care too much about something like this - I'd just replace the fleet with bigger & better ships. But this is happening very often, even when there's only one empire that I'm battling with. Is this normal? You'd think that even the worst of commanders would know not to warp out right on top of an enemy when they have the first shot....
good thing i saved.
Edit: i can't do ASCII art here... :\
[ March 02, 2004, 04:36: Message edited by: oogs ]
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March 2nd, 2004, 06:45 AM
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Re: Worst place to start a combat...
Use the [code ] tags to do your ASCII art.
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March 2nd, 2004, 08:07 AM
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Re: Worst place to start a combat...
That's unusual. It seems that when I attack a planet, my fleet usually starts off near the edge of the combat area and it takes me a few combat turns just to get to the planet in the middle?
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March 2nd, 2004, 09:51 PM
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Re: Worst place to start a combat...
Which patches has this happened with? I've never seen that problem with planet attacks unless you have hundreds of ships so there is no room for them.
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March 2nd, 2004, 10:49 PM
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Re: Worst place to start a combat...
Was there a warp point over the planet?
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E=mc^2
E=1kg(3x10^8m/s)^2=9x10^16J
which, if I'm not mistaken, is equivilent to roughly a 50 megaton nuclear bomb.
Fear the squirrel.
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March 3rd, 2004, 05:35 AM
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Re: Worst place to start a combat...
Wow, i seem to always forget to mention patch/Mod. STM 1.5.1.1. with 1.9.1 installed.
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March 3rd, 2004, 06:29 AM
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Re: Worst place to start a combat...
I have had several bad fights because combat started to close to a plannet...
I had a wall formation and there was plenty of room...
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March 4th, 2004, 10:21 PM
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Re: Worst place to start a combat...
i know what you mean. it just happened again... me vs a planet. i had 50 ships in a compact formation, they didn't have anything except 80 weapons platforms... and i started 9 spaces away from the planet.
in the amount of time i typed this message (2 mins) they've wiped out my entire fleet.
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March 4th, 2004, 10:34 PM
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Re: Worst place to start a combat...
Were there more than 2 races participating in the combat? Weird things do happen when there are more.
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March 4th, 2004, 10:47 PM
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Re: Worst place to start a combat...
nope, just me vs the ferengi.. they didn't even have a fleet present.
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