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				September 16th, 2005, 05:31 AM
			
			
			
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				 all OOBs sugestion of changes 
 I have a few sugestions about changes in all games OOB so I write this
 - For ASU-85 is beter use icon 3002 and 3003 because is more close to reality than icon 45 what is use today
 
 - For BRDM-1 is beter use icon 2932 than 236 because wordwide is use BRDM-1 M1959 not M1957 only see in moust OOBs BRDM-1 has a top armour
 
 - In all OOBs we have SA-8a Gecko with four rockets but with icons 47 from SA-8b what is difrent SA-8b six rockets in containers. SA-8a shuld used a 4 rocket without containers so icon 1846 is better for SA-8a
 
 - For SU-85 for example in DDR OOB is used icon 2955 but icon 3004 is better more real
 
 - For SU-100 is used icon 2937 but I thing better is 3006 for wartime non modified version. Icon 2937 shuld be good only for SU-100M
 
 - The game has no BTR-152D with ZPU-4 AAMG
 
 - Gaz 69 has in some OOBs icons from Land Rover insted of 2958. Next thing is first vehicles was produced 1948 before this year Eastern cauntrys used wartime gaz 67 and americans Jeeps. In OOBs LBms are from difrent vehicles Land rover , in rusian OOB from Gaz 67 so the standart Lbm for Gaz 69 schould be Pm64504 or Pm64503 is too good.
 
 - Than after 1972 moust used wordwide by estern cauntrys was UAZ-469 should used icon 2965 and Pm45365 Lbm here we too have mish-mash in difrents OOB
 
 - T-34/85 M1947 and all news variants has four men crew instead five like in war time production tanks
 
 - Wartime tanks in some OOBs like LT-38 in Czech OOB , T-26 in finland , french tanks like R-35 H-35 and another not very popular after war like T-60 and T-70 used not good looking icons is that possible replace this icons to news take from SPWW2
 
 - S-125 Neva know too as SA-3 Goa was in early version in years 61-74 was in use old version of lanucher with two rockets only. Four rockets version what is in OOB was in service after 1974
 
 - Rusians used too the next versions of famous GAZ-AAMG truck with Maxims MG. After 1950 was in service URAL truck with ZPU-2 , ZPU-1 and ZPU-4  after interduction of Zu-23 version with this gun was too used some of them was armoured some not.
 
 - Romunians after war to 1948 used old ex-polish PZL-37 Los bombers known from september 1939.
 
 - PT-34 or PT-54 that is not name of the tank that is name of antimine device like KMT-5 so this tanks should be name for example : T-34/85 PT-34 , T-54A PT-54
 
 - in Hungarian OOB D-422 FUG used icon 2932 for BRDM-1 M1959 . Should use his own 2949 icon is better. In Czech OOB OT-65 FUG use icon 236 from BRDM-1 1957. OT-65 FUG should used  icon 2949 and OT-65A FUG should used icon 2335. I thing we have mish-mash with FUG vehicles in difrents OOBs
 
 - PSzH-IV used icon 2314 from BRDM-2 but has his own better icon 2334.
 
 - Reduce crew from five to four men in ZUZANA SP Guns in
 
			
			
			
			
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				September 16th, 2005, 06:38 PM
			
			
			
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				 revised icons 
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				September 17th, 2005, 10:47 AM
			
			
			
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				 Revised icons 
 Next pocket of revised icons for WinSPMBT I take this icons from SPWW2 they are not done by me |  
	
		
	
	
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				September 17th, 2005, 12:19 PM
			
			
			
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				 Re: Revised icons 
 Blaz, changing some of the older "WW2" Icon in WinSPMBT for the newer versions in SPWW2 had been on my to-do list for the patch and was recently completed .
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				September 19th, 2005, 07:29 PM
			
			
			
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				 Re: Revised icons 
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				September 20th, 2005, 01:26 AM
			
			
			
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				 Re: Revised icons 
 Oops..... I knew there would be one of the old icons I'd miss and those Czech 810's and the Hetzer were it
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				September 20th, 2005, 01:42 AM
			
			
			
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				 Re: Revised icons 
 Hmmmm... upon further investigation I see we already do have 810's in the SHP files and someone used the old Sdkfz-251 icons in he Czech OOB by mistake. Wonderful. There's no end to this it seems sometimes
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				September 20th, 2005, 03:15 AM
			
			
			
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				 Re: Revised icons 
 That true but today Sdkfz icon 2976 is used only with OT-810D special version with RCL gun. Normal version OT-810 use his own icon |  
	
		
	
	
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				September 20th, 2005, 05:19 AM
			
			
			
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				September 21st, 2005, 04:20 PM
			
			
			
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				 New icons 
 New icons
 OT-90 , SA-8 with AAMRAM rockets
 
 I removed BRAMS bacause made better improvment icon please look down
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