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				September 20th, 2007, 11:19 PM
			
			
			
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				 The (Indirect) Fire Bless for Magi - Huh? 
 Greetings,
 No matter how much I stare at the indirect bless for Fire (+Attack), I just don't see how it synergizes with the caster, let alone with any Fire spells.
 
 Am I missing something, or is the indirect bless for Fire really that sucktastic?
 
 If so, i'd vote to replace it with something like +Penetration or something similarly thematic for Fire.
 
 Either that, or have more melee ranged Augmentation spells for Fire.  Essentially, Fire Augmentation for melee offense and Water Augmentation for melee defense?
 
 Your thoughts?
 
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				September 20th, 2007, 11:31 PM
			
			
			
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				 Re: The Fire Bless for Magi - Huh? 
 Fire weapons is unthematic? How so? Fire is one of the better blesses. |  
	
		
	
	
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				September 21st, 2007, 12:27 AM
			
			
			
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				 Re: The Fire Bless for Magi - Huh? 
 It's almost impossible blessings will be changing this late in the games development.  You probably have better odds winning the lottery because a change like you're suggesting might make you happy yet upset other gamers. 
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				September 21st, 2007, 12:32 AM
			
			
			
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				 Re: The Fire Bless for Magi - Huh? 
 I believe he means indirect magic. The title should be changed. 
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				September 21st, 2007, 12:46 AM
			
			
			
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				 Re: The (Indirect) Fire Bless for Magi - Huh? 
 Whoops, I do mean the indirect magic    
Y'know, the one that increases Attack for each level in the Fire path of magic.
 
So, a F3 Mage would have +3 Attack.  But how is this useful for the Mage?
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				September 21st, 2007, 12:50 AM
			
			
			
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				 Re: The (Indirect) Fire Bless for Magi - Huh? 
 Not all fire mages are old, burned out Wizards.
 Some are Red Dragons. Red Dragons want to be sure they hit what they attack because a hit usually results in a kill.
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				September 21st, 2007, 05:17 AM
			
			
			
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				 Re: The (Indirect) Fire Bless for Magi - Huh? 
 Oh, you don't mean bless? (deletes post)
 You're right, it generally isn't that useful, though there are SCs and the like with fire magic.
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				September 21st, 2007, 07:24 AM
			
			
			
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				 Re: The (Indirect) Fire Bless for Magi - Huh? 
 Most of the magic bonuses are not especially useful on most casters (except air, probably), but in some cases they're excellent. Pretenders being the most obvious example. But I am also pleased for example that my Archangels have big boosts to their attack. |  
	
		
	
	
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				 Re: The (Indirect) Fire Bless for Magi - Huh? 
 Wouldn't it be a little powerfull ? Fire magic already permits a great mid game, thanks to evocation. Maybe any more advantage would be too much.True that fire mages getting older quicker than others is a BIG disadvantage. 
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				 Re: The (Indirect) Fire Bless for Magi - Huh? 
 Arch devils also come to mind, they make great anti-SC SCs because of their naturally high attack values. 
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