CBM Cavalry

[Radio_Star]

I'm wondering what everyone's favorite CBM cav unit is. I've been scanning over some of the cost changes in the mod and a few things have already jumped out at me:

1. Serpent Cataphracts. Already a decent unit, they get a 25% cost reduction and their resource cost cut almost in half. 45 gold and 29 resources for, essentially, nearly 40 HP at 17 prot with decent defense, a 15 damage range 3 animal attack, and a beast form with (if memory serves) -more- morale than the original. Please, sir, may I have some more?

2. Royal Guard. A universal 40% reduction puts these guys in an odd position. While lance-less and with slightly below average protection for their weight class, they pack kite shields which dovetail beautifully with the mass of bolts that Marignon likes to throw out and they also carry an enormous 19 defense.


Honorable mention goes to the Equite. While their stats are still nothing to write home about, they got a significant cost reduction. Decent move and a light lance gives a powerful one-shot flank option.


I've always considered cav units to be something of a niche/luxury, but CBM looks like it's out to change that.

Any other contenders for CBM heavyweights?

[VedalkenBear]

I like Marverni's Eponi Knight in CBM.

[thejeff]

I don't think the Serpent Cataphract isn't quite that good, since the riderless serpent doesn't stick around after the fight.

[Radio_Star]

Forgot to mention the 3(!) enc on cataphracts .. which seems a bit strange.

[JimMorrison]

Originally Posted by Radio_Star

Forgot to mention the 3(!) enc on cataphracts .. which seems a bit strange.

There is no Melee Enc from gear on cavalry. Apparently, mounts will never tire out faster, no matter how much steel you strap to their back. So the 3 Enc, is Base Enc for the unit.

[Endoperez]

Originally Posted by JimMorrison

There is no Melee Enc from gear on cavalry. Apparently, mounts will never tire out faster, no matter how much steel you strap to their back. So the 3 Enc, is Base Enc for the unit.

Actually, most heavy cavalry units have base encumberance 5 instead of 3 (base human). So the horses do tire a bit faster, but the serpents don't.

[Meglobob]

My favourite cavalry in vanilla has always been La Tien Chi's Ancester Vessels with a W9 bless. Those guys really rock and give that cavalry feeling of a unstoppable charge that smashs anything in there way, rather like the Rohan cavalry charge in LoTRs Return of the King.

I have not really looked at CBM cavalry but those royal guard/serpent cataphracts look interesting, I will put it on my, 'to look into list'.

I like the graphics for Jomon cavalry, (the banners are nice, when you have a bunch of them) but they are not very effective on the battlefield or easily massed. Has CBM improved those or are we waiting for K.O.'s new Jomon in a future patch?

[Wrana]

Aren't Serpents Cold-Blooded? If no, they should be...
As for cavalry as such, I like Tien Chi ones (or Sauromatia), with composite bows and light lances. You just can't compete with their sheer versatility...

[vfb]

Originally Posted by Wrana

Aren't Serpents Cold-Blooded? If no, they should be...
As for cavalry as such, I like Tien Chi ones (or Sauromatia), with composite bows and light lances. You just can't compete with their sheer versatility...

No, none of the serpent riders have the cold-blooded attribute. Cavalry attributes are based on the rider, not the mount.

[Tolkien]

If serpent cataphracts count, I'm nominating Machaka's spiders. Because they are just that awesome.

I've also always had a soft spot for Black Knights/Templars.