Ultimate Vehicle Size

[Andrés]

The Ultimate vehicle size mod is back, and gold compatible!

Major re-work of all vehicle Sizes that includes
60 normal ships from 75 to 40000 kt
20 carriers from 130 to 31400 kt
20 bases from 250 to 65000 kt
5 colony ships from 240 to 370 kt
20 transports from 150 to 23500 kt
10 fighters from 7 to 56 kt
10 satellites from 40 to 200 kt
10 mines from 5 to 100 kt
10 troops from 1 to 100 kt
and more than 35 weapon mounts used by different type of vehicles

[Jmenschenfresser]

Sitting here at work, so I really can't check if I am correct or not, but I was checking out the sizes of ships you've created. Several of the larger designs like the Mothership-11 have something like 50 engines per move, but list as requirements a maximum of six engines. I may simply lack the understanding of the vehiclesize file...

dunno. Here's the lines I am confused over:

Engines Per Move := 36
...
Requirement Max Engines := 6

[Fyron]

This mod is using quasi-newtonian propulsion. Each engine gives more than one move. Qauntum Emgines have this ability:
Ability 2 Type := Standard Ship Movement
Ability 2 Descr := Generates 9 standard movement.
Ability 2 Val 1 := 9
Ability 2 Val 2 := 0

So, if you use 6 of them in a Massive Mothership-10, they would make 6 x 9 = 54 movement points. Since the Mothership has 36 engines per move (which actually means "number of movement points generated by engines required for each actual point of movement that the ship gets in-game), it would have 54 / 36 = 1.5 MP, which rounds down to 1. With Quantum Engines, it gets 1 MP with 4, 5 or 6 engines, since 4 engines make 36 movement, and it would take 8 engines to get 72 movement, whih the ship cannot have.

[ 05 April 2002: Message edited by: Imperator Fyron ]

[Jmenschenfresser]

Gotcha...didn't realize that engines per move also took into consideration movement points generated, although that is extremely logical. Learned something today.

[Andrés]

I implement engines per move and many engines in every ship, but it's not QN.
To be quasi-newtonian, engines per move would have to be proportional to hull size.

[Puke]

i was thinking of making a QN system where at the top of the tech tree there were inertialess engines that gave only bonus movement. that would mean that the ship got the full movement of the engine, regardless of its 'engines per move,' right? or do i have that wrong? its been a while since i was playing with ship sizes and engines.

[Andrés]

quote:

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Originally posted by Puke:
i was thinking of making a QN system where at the top of the tech tree there were inertialess engines that gave only bonus movement. that would mean that the ship got the full movement of the engine, regardless of its 'engines per move,' right? or do i have that wrong? its been a while since i was playing with ship sizes and engines.

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That's how solar sails work, also remember that only one will be effective.

I don't really like that effect, in this mod I removed all bonus movs from engines and make them increase their thrust in a way that normal ships will get similar speeds like in the standard game when using 6 engines, but less if using only 1.

[Fyron]

Puke:
You got that right. Bonus movement ignores the engines per move. However, the ship has to have at least one standard movement point before it can be given any bonus movement.

[Nebraskan]

Andres:

I have been trying out your Ultimate Vehicle Size Mod and found 2 errors. I was designing Drones and they were useless because there are not any drone engines available in the mod.

Also the Base Construction tech in the Techarea.txt only goes up to level 20 not 21 like is required in the vehiclesize.txt file for the largest base.

Otherwise a very interesting mod.

[HEMAN]

Andrés Lescano, This is a very good mod?.I have researched almost all tecks, only base & drone are the only ones left.I will enjoy playing this mod for weeks.A suggestion, how about adding a mount or two for fighters, or adding steller creation projects in the same field of ringworld / sphere area?.
Those ship sizes are impressive?,I SALUTE YOU Andrés Lescano.
Ferengi Rules of Acquisition #242 More is good...all is better.

[ 08 April 2002: Message edited by: HEMAN ]