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Old December 19th, 2002, 04:32 AM

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Default HELP - Movement Chart needed !!

Greetings !!

I need the movement chart for simultaneous movements - by this I mean which days a ship with a speed of X moves.

I need this to know if my vessel, which is farther away from a target will reach that target ahead or behind a second vessel which goes slower BUT is closed to the same target.

If I remember correctly, each movement speed will correspond to movements in certain days in the month. Does a chart of these movements exists for SE4 !??! (it reminds me of the Starfleet Battles Impulse table - which I can't locate on te web)

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Old December 19th, 2002, 04:56 AM
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Default Re: HELP - Movement Chart needed !!

No Chart. It's a formula. 30 days in a month (one turn). x is speed of ship. 30/x is how many days between moves.

Example, ship A has a speed of 6, ship B has a speed of 7. 30/6=5, 30/7=4.2.

Ship A will move on day 5 day 10, day 15, etc.

Ship B will move on day 5 or day 4 depending on what the game does with the partial numbers. Not sure if it rounds up or down or whatever.

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Old December 19th, 2002, 04:57 AM
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Default Re: HELP - Movement Chart needed !!

How ironic...I'm currently snacking on Ritz Crisps. Now if I only had some EZ-Cheese...

Take your ship/fleet speed and divide it into 30. Your ship will move every 5 days, for example, at speed 6. What I'm not sure of is if it would move on 1,6,11,16,21,and 26, or 5,10,15,20,25, and 30.
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Old December 19th, 2002, 09:49 AM
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Default Re: HELP - Movement Chart needed !!

Since I wasn't sure how the game handled fractions either, I decided to find out when the game moved each speed. In a simultaneous game, I took Propulsion Expert, then created a ship of each speed from 2 to 13, lined them up, moved them as far as each could go in one month, and then watched the movement log. Here are my results. (The 'movement day' is the day that the ship ends up in a new sector.)

code:
Spd  Movement Days
02: 15, 30
03: 10, 20, 30
04: 7, 15, 22, 30
05: 6, 12, 18, 24, 30
06: 5, 10, 15, 20, 25, 30
07: 4, 8, 12, 17, 21, 25, 30
08: 3, 7, 11, 14, 18, 22, 26, 29,
09: 3, 6, 10, 13, 16, 20, 23, 26, 30
10: 2, 5, 8, 11, 14, 17, 20, 23, 26, 29,
11: 2, 5, 8, 10, 13, 16, 19, 21, 24, 27, 30
12: 2, 4, 7, 9, 12, 14, 17, 19, 22, 24, 27, 29
13: 2, 4, 6, 9, 11, 13, 16, 18, 20, 23, 25, 27, 29

Or, for the visually-inclined amongst us:

code:
Mvmt --Speed--1111
Day 1234567890123
01 .............
02 .........XXXX
03 .......XX....
04 ......X....XX
05 .....X...XX..
06 ....X...X...X
07 ...X...X...X.
08 ......X..XX..
09 ...........XX
10 ..X..X..X.X..
11 .......X.X..X
12 ....X.X....X.
13 ........X.X.X
14 .......X.X.X.
15 .X.X.X.......
16 ........X.X.X
17 ......X..X.X.
18 ....X..X....X
19 ..........XX.
20 ..X..X..XX..X
21 ......X...X..
22 ...X...X...X.
23 ........XX..X
24 ....X.....XX.
25 .....XX.....X
26 .......XXX...
27 ..........XXX
28 .............
29 .......X.X.XX
30 XXXXXXX.X.X..

Realize that I whipped this up from just one test on Gold, so your results may vary.

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Default Re: HELP - Movement Chart needed !!

Wow this is great - Thanks for the help guys !!! *(and gals if any...

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P.S. Geez I really think the SE4 community is one of the greatest bunch of people 'round, especially when it's to help others !!!
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P.S. Geez I really think the SE4 community is one of the greatest bunch of people 'round, especially when it's to help others !!!
So do the rest of us.
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Default Re: HELP - Movement Chart needed !!

I bet the progression continues if you use an EPP prior to moving.
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Default Re: HELP - Movement Chart needed !!

Something to note:
It is not based on how far the ship is ordered to go.
It is based on the potential speed of the ship.
A subtle differance.
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Default Re: HELP - Movement Chart needed !!

The formula for the time at which movement occurs is [30/ship speed][Movement number] rounded down
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Default Re: HELP - Movement Chart needed !!

Also, simultaneous games only support ship movement up to 30. It won't bother you unless you're using some heavily modded stuff, but it's still a limit.
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