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Old October 5th, 2006, 08:08 PM
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Default SP AI definitely still questionable.

I'm surrounded on two sides by Pythium, with about 100 troops in each force and his Pretender leading one of those forces and sitting pretty in his castle. So, I sit and wait as I'm marshalling my troops.

Next thing I know, I've got a "You killed our God!" message.

I check the battle replay and Pythium sent its Father of Serpents... and 8 bodyguards to fight my 120+ Shinuyama army and Pretender? What's up with that?

Definitely still needs some polish. I'm just not sure in what universe the AI thinks that's a good idea...
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Old October 5th, 2006, 08:44 PM
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What were the other settings? Was it easy AI on Aggressive setting?
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Default Re: SP AI definitely still questionable.

Difficult AI. Normal setting.
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Difficult AI. Normal setting.
There r now two more settings above this for the AI. I don't think u can complain about the AI until u can beat several impossible AI's in SP.

An AI is good if its a challenge to beat and keeps yr interest. No AI will ever be as good as a human, we learn, a AI just gets updates or patches. So is the AI challenging u and keeping u interested?
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Default Re: SP AI definitely still questionable.


Don't think the issue with the AI not bringing troops has anything to do with assassination - in the game I saw the behavior, Abysia was the only nation with assassins, and it's the one that sent the Prophet and 5 infantry against 70 barbarians.
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Default Re: SP AI definitely still questionable.

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Difficult AI. Normal setting.
There r now two more settings above this for the AI. I don't think u can complain about the AI until u can beat several impossible AI's in SP.

An AI is good if its a challenge to beat and keeps yr interest. No AI will ever be as good as a human, we learn, a AI just gets updates or patches. So is the AI challenging u and keeping u interested?

2 impossible AIs just kicked my butt in my first full SP game. I was with Ulm.
C'tis has moved like 1000 units to my capital at turn 36 in 2 turns, needless to say that my main armies were far away, since like ~1200 enemy troops were messing around at the north side of the island.
My SC pretender and 150 troops were massacred easily.
The AI is definitely much better now.
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Default Re: SP AI definitely still questionable.

Perhaps his pretender was supposed to be followed by an army, but the commander leading this army was killed before moving (assassination, magical attack...). Was Pythium the only AI ? If not this suicidal attack may be the result of another AI action.
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Frankly, it jibes with what I've seen - sometimes the AI brings a proper army, other times it sends a prophetized warlord with 5 troops against 60-70 barbarians.
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Default Re: SP AI definitely still questionable.

I think that the problem is it runs like this...

Create ArmyA
Fill ArmyA
Send out ArmyA

The problem seems to be that if most of ArmyA is wiped out in the first couple of provinces, its still ArmyA. And that army gets sent out over and over until its gone.

Its the disband or refill code that seems to be lacking. Im not sure how often it checks its armies trength or rebuilds them.
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Default Re: SP AI definitely still questionable.

Killed most of an ulm army.

They routed.

And the next turn the last surviving commander and 15 troops attacked my 5 mages,pretender and 120 troops..

I was a bit confused.
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